From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33030 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Denys Duchier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: emacs21-branch (Re: ognus) Date: 31 Oct 2000 10:50:03 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <20001028192205.7987BDBA78@tux.gnu.franken.de> <20001029184843.3207BDBAC8@tux.gnu.franken.de> <200010302253.WAA08203@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169213 23032 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:00:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ABAD049A for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:50:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAB14325; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:50:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:49:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16258 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:49:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0917ED049A for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:50:05 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.11.1/2000102300) with ESMTP id KAA16572 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:49:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from elk.ps.uni-sb.de (elk.ps.uni-sb.de [134.96.186.151]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.1/2000102300) with ESMTP id KAA28345 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:50:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (from duchier@localhost) by elk.ps.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA15005; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:50:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: elk.ps.uni-sb.de: duchier set sender to Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Laura Conrad's message of "30 Oct 2000 18:38:08 -0500" Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33030 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33030 Laura Conrad writes: > I doubt that Dave was saying anyone should withhold anything. Perhaps not, but I find the opacity and the secrecy surrounding so many GNU projects rather frustrating. Gnus is an exception and I'd like it to stay this way. > I think the gnus user manual is daunting enough to a new user without > having an implication that you have to understand CVS as well as 6 > kinds of buffer, umpteen backends, 3 kinds of score files... "I doubt that Denys was saying that anyone should read an implication that you have to understand CVS..." :-) Ah hem... There is nothing wrong about having a part titled "Maintenance, Development, Or Living On The Bleeding Edge"... but I don't think we really disagree: > It might make sense to have a "developer manual" So, you bind the "bleeding edge" part separately and the user gets two manuals. That's fine with me :-) Cheers, -- Dr. Denys Duchier Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de Forschungsbereich Programmiersysteme (Programming Systems Lab) Universitaet des Saarlandes, Geb. 45 http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~duchier Postfach 15 11 50 Phone: +49 681 302 5618 66041 Saarbruecken, Germany Fax: +49 681 302 5615