cannot get ALL articles in a group

cannot get ALL articles in a group

[Denys Duchier]

I just discovered that there is a group on our server for which I
cannot convince Gnus to fetch all the articles (already read, some
ticked).  I can do it just fine by telneting directly to the nntp
port.

I tried using number prefixes to no avail.  I don't even know what
info to provide to track down the problem.  I was running an old CVS
version: I tried updating from the CVS again, but nothing changed.

Any advice?

-- 
Dr. Denys Duchier			Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de
Forschungsbereich Programmiersysteme	(Programming Systems Lab)
Universitaet des Saarlandes, Geb. 45	http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~duchier
Postfach 15 11 50			Phone: +49 681 302 5618
66041 Saarbruecken, Germany		Fax:   +49 681 302 5615

cannot get ALL articles in a group

[Michael.Cook]

Denys Duchier <Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de> writes:

> I just discovered that there is a group on our server for which I
> cannot convince Gnus to fetch all the articles (already read, some
> ticked).  I can do it just fine by telneting directly to the nntp
> port.
>
> I tried using number prefixes to no avail.  I don't even know what
> info to provide to track down the problem.  I was running an old CVS
> version: I tried updating from the CVS again, but nothing changed.
>
> Any advice?

i reported an apparent bug recently related to ~/Mail/active not
being updated properly (the "lower bound" number is too high
sometimes).  i haven't had an opportunity to look into it further
yet, but if that problem is the problem you're seeing, then you
should be able to work around the problem by editing ~/Mail/active.
find the line of the group in question.
it'll be something like this:

bulk.ding 23172 21207 y

change the second number to something smaller:

bulk.ding 23172 1 y

m.

Re: cannot get ALL articles in a group

[Denys Duchier]

Michael.Cook@cisco.com writes:

> Denys Duchier <Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de> writes:
>
>> I just discovered that there is a group on our server for which I
>> cannot convince Gnus to fetch all the articles (already read, some
>> ticked).
>> [...]
>> Any advice?
>
> i reported an apparent bug recently related to ~/Mail/active not
> being updated properly (the "lower bound" number is too high
> sometimes).

This is for a news group, not a mail group.  It doesn't appear in
Mail/active.  Any other guesses?  This is kind of important, since we
use these groups for archival and at the moment I cannot access old
threads through Gnus.

Cheers,

-- 
Dr. Denys Duchier			Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de
Forschungsbereich Programmiersysteme	(Programming Systems Lab)
Universitaet des Saarlandes, Geb. 45	http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~duchier
Postfach 15 11 50			Phone: +49 681 302 5618
66041 Saarbruecken, Germany		Fax:   +49 681 302 5615

Re: cannot get ALL articles in a group

[Simon Josefsson]

Denys Duchier <Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de> writes:

> Michael.Cook@cisco.com writes:
>
>> Denys Duchier <Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de> writes:
>>
>>> I just discovered that there is a group on our server for which I
>>> cannot convince Gnus to fetch all the articles (already read, some
>>> ticked).
>>> [...]
>>> Any advice?
>>
>> i reported an apparent bug recently related to ~/Mail/active not
>> being updated properly (the "lower bound" number is too high
>> sometimes).
>
> This is for a news group, not a mail group.  It doesn't appear in
> Mail/active.  Any other guesses?  This is kind of important, since we
> use these groups for archival and at the moment I cannot access old
> threads through Gnus.

Maybe the news servers' active information is b0rked?

Re: cannot get ALL articles in a group

[Kai Großjohann]

Denys Duchier <Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de> writes:

> I just discovered that there is a group on our server for which I
> cannot convince Gnus to fetch all the articles (already read, some
> ticked).  I can do it just fine by telneting directly to the nntp
> port.

What kind of server is that?  nntp or nnimap?

What happens when you C-u RET to enter the group?  If there is an
error message, please do M-1 M-x toggle-debug-on-error RET, enter the
group, show us the resulting backtrace.

kai
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Re: cannot get ALL articles in a group

[Denys Duchier]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Maybe the news servers' active information is b0rked?

yes, that was it! thanks! I know, where to complain now :-)

Cheers,

-- 
Dr. Denys Duchier			Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de
Forschungsbereich Programmiersysteme	(Programming Systems Lab)
Universitaet des Saarlandes, Geb. 45	http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~duchier
Postfach 15 11 50			Phone: +49 681 302 5618
66041 Saarbruecken, Germany		Fax:   +49 681 302 5615