From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33166 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Denys Duchier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: emacs21-branch (Re: ognus) Date: 03 Nov 2000 20:42:35 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <20001028192205.7987BDBA78@tux.gnu.franken.de> <20001029184843.3207BDBAC8@tux.gnu.franken.de> <200010302253.WAA08203@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011021725.RAA12721@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011031914.TAA14435@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169322 23667 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:02:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:02:02 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DC3D049A for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:43:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB21659; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:43:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:42:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21235 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:42:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AA1D049A for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:42:37 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.11.1/2000102300) with ESMTP id UAA08241 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:42:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from elk.ps.uni-sb.de (elk.ps.uni-sb.de [134.96.186.151]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.1/2000102300) with ESMTP id UAA08524 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:42:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (from duchier@localhost) by elk.ps.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA28873; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:42:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: elk.ps.uni-sb.de: duchier set sender to Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Dave Love's message of "Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:14:54 GMT" Original-Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33166 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33166 Dave Love writes: > I'm not aware of an accreditation scheme. > > If you are volunteering to provide that effort, and can you show > competence to do it, great, contact the maintainer and perhaps you > can change things. Exactly what I was saying: you need to be specially accredited by the powers that be simply in order to access information. > Why should maintainers expend the effort to do that if it's better > devoted to improving the software? No effort need be expended. These days, we all use CVS to develop software. You simply need to give anonymous read access, just like we have it for Gnus. > GNU is about cooperation and volunteers make things happen. You'd be more likely to get volunteers if they could observe the on-going developments and decide whether there is something they can contribute to. But really, all I am suggesting is that the on-going development be made transparent rather than opaque. No effort is involved. The general public benefits by being better informed, and as a result can also better decide whether, what and how to contribute back to the project. The project itself doesn't have to change its policy about accepting contributors. Everybody wins. The only thing that we loose is the veil of mystery. Cheers, -- Dr. Denys Duchier Denys.Duchier@ps.uni-sb.de Forschungsbereich Programmiersysteme (Programming Systems Lab) Universitaet des Saarlandes, Geb. 45 http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~duchier Postfach 15 11 50 Phone: +49 681 302 5618 66041 Saarbruecken, Germany Fax: +49 681 302 5615