Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

[Florian Weimer]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:

> i've just tried to sign a message with 'c-c c-m s o' and after trying to see
> its previev i got an error:

"timer" is probably required by the XEmacs emulation of the 'timer'
package. gpg.el uses this package to expire the passphrase.

Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

[Simon Josefsson]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:

> On the 2nd of October 2002 at 11:57, Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> wrote:
>
>> "timer" is probably required by the XEmacs emulation of the 'timer'
>> package. gpg.el uses this package to expire the passphrase.
>
> fine. but something is wrong (probably in my setup, but i can't find what).
>
> when i evaluate in *scratch* buffer:
>  (require 'gpg)
> i got:
>  symbol's function definition is void: timer-create
> i guess that's because of not loaded timer.el. so i evaluate:
>  (require 'timer)
> and in minibuffer i can see: 'timer'. but evaluation of:
>  (require 'gpg)
> gives the same error, and
>  (fboundp 'timer-create)
> shows 'nil'.

timer-create is part of itimer, which is part of XEmacs core, or at
least it is in 21.4.8.  timer.el loads itimer.  Try a later XEmacs.

Btw, I moved pgg/*.el into lisp/ (and pgg/*.texi into texi/) as all
files with unclear copyright has been removed.  So Oort now supports
GPG/PGP5/PGP6 natively.  Finally.  You can remove the pgg/ directory
now.

Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

[Clemens Fischer]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Btw, I moved pgg/*.el into lisp/ (and pgg/*.texi into texi/) as all
> files with unclear copyright has been removed.  So Oort now supports
> GPG/PGP5/PGP6 natively.  Finally.  You can remove the pgg/ directory
> now.

juhuuuu!  i've been waiting for this.

clemens

Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

[Florian Weimer]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Btw, I moved pgg/*.el into lisp/ (and pgg/*.texi into texi/) as all
> files with unclear copyright has been removed.  So Oort now supports
> GPG/PGP5/PGP6 natively.  Finally.  You can remove the pgg/ directory
> now.

Good news.  Is this some kind of official statement from the FSF that
the files are okay, or will the files be removed in GNU Emacs
releases?  They still don't claim that they part of GNU Emacs.

Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

[Simon Josefsson]

Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> Btw, I moved pgg/*.el into lisp/ (and pgg/*.texi into texi/) as all
>> files with unclear copyright has been removed.  So Oort now supports
>> GPG/PGP5/PGP6 natively.  Finally.  You can remove the pgg/ directory
>> now.
>
> Good news.  Is this some kind of official statement from the FSF that
> the files are okay, or will the files be removed in GNU Emacs
> releases?  They still don't claim that they part of GNU Emacs.

The FSF copyright clerk position is vacant so noone has answered my
questions related to this, but the PGG author said he has signed
papers for it.  I have asked FSF though, and if it turns out they
can't be used, they will of course be removed.  I don't know what the
Emacs maintainer think, maybe they can review all of Oort when a
stable release is available?  PGG isn't the only new stuff since the
latest stable release, and things might change until a new stable
version is released so I'm not sure it makes sense to ask now.

Re: what's the 'timer' file needed for gpg?

[Simon Josefsson]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner.ding@blah.pl> writes:

> hi,
>
> i've just tried to sign a message with 'c-c c-m s o' and after trying to see
> its previev i got an error:
>
> Signaling: (file-error "Searching for program" "No such file or directory" "/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/timer")
>   start-process-internal("timer" nil "/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/timer")
>   apply(start-process-internal "timer" nil "/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/timer" nil)
>   start-process("timer" nil "/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.6/i386-debian-linux/timer")
>   (let ((process-connection-type nil)) (start-process "timer" nil timer-program))
>   (setq timer-process (let (...) (start-process "timer" nil timer-program)) timer-alist nil)
>   (cond ((or ... ...) (if timer-process ...) (setq timer-process ... timer-alist nil) (set-process-filter timer-process ...) (set-process-sentinel timer-process ...) (process-kill-without-query timer-process)) ((eq ... ...) (continue-process timer-process)))
>   run-at-time(16 nil pgg-remove-passphrase-cache "4D791EA4")

This seems to be a XEmacs problem, or possibly a Debian package bug.
On my debian system I don't have the timer binary, but I'm using
XEmacs 21.4.8 instead.  Could you try upgrading XEmacs and if that
doesn't help report the backtrace to the debian people?  Thanks.