From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44704 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Bely Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Copyright/license issues (was: [COMMIT] sign & encrypt changes) Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 15:44:53 +0400 Organization: DB @ somewhere Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87adrjse42.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87wuunyrl4.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87u1pqbsl3.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87bsby4oy8.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87lmb2336u.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87662631te.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87wuum1lwl.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3cx9mgs1.fsf@mail.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020685557 2361 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2002 11:45:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174gwH-0000bn-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 13:45:57 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 174gvd-0003vF-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 06:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 06 May 2002 06:45:32 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA02181 for ; Mon, 6 May 2002 06:45:19 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 6881 invoked by alias); 6 May 2002 11:44:59 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6876 invoked from network); 6 May 2002 11:44:59 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 May 2002 11:44:59 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174h2N-0004fT-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 13:52:15 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: stormoff.access.telecore.net.ru Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1020685935 17946 213.135.65.93 (6 May 2002 11:52:15 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 May 2002 11:52:15 GMT X-Comment-To: Matthieu Moy User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service (Windows), i586-pc-win32) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tL1JeJfCxC6QNKPrLYEZ09cZ8wY= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44704 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44704 Matthieu Moy writes: >> Anyway, this "monolitic tarball" approach looks archaic nowadays. Most >> users needs *binary* [X]Emacs distribution and sophisticated package system >> (like XEmacs has) that lets the end user to update his/her system without >> downloading and recompiling everything. > > But very few people will like to have 3 packages (Emacs/Gnus/BBDB) to > download, compile, configure, ... before being able to simply use > mail. I liked to be able to type M-x gnus from a newly installed > Emacs. With XEmacs you should just select Tools->Packages->List and install, specify what you need, and it will do all the rest. > Then, if distributions (like Debian and Mandrake) like to split Emacs > and Gnus in several packages, then, why not, because the distribution > itself provides integration. Possible. Anyway, there is no real need to have Gnus included into Emacs tarball and to follow FSF copyright policy. Hope to hear from you soon, Dmitry