From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62186 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: starttls.el does not use gnutls-cli Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:16:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87d5gz6f2p.fsf@psyche.kn-bremen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1141813206 7731 80.91.229.2 (8 Mar 2006 10:20:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10714=ding+2daccount=gmane.org@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 08 11:19:57 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FGvlh-0004zO-Ma for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:19:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FGvlg-0005Wp-03 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:19:44 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FGvjS-0005Wh-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:17:26 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FGvjJ-0003gz-Cm for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:17:26 -0600 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FGvjD-0001fO-00 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:17:11 +0100 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (jas@yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k28AGxeo000775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:17:02 +0100 Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Plate?= OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:21:060308:patterner@gmail.com::Jea72lIcomsUAs1m:2reP X-Hashcash: 1:21:060308:ding@gnus.org::cP4QPTiNEy7lxvK8:BHuc In-Reply-To: (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Plate's message of "Tue, 7 Mar 2006 22:47:20 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.84, clamav-milter version 0.84e on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by yxa.extundo.com id k28AGxeo000775 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62186 Archived-At: "J=F6rg Plate" writes: >> > starttls.el looks for "starttls" but cannot find it >> > (because it is not installed), but it does not use >> > gnutls-cli (which is installed). >> > >> > (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.$NAME.de") >> > (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.$NAME.de") >> > (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >> > (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("smtp.$NAME.de" 587 "user" "passwo= rd"))) >> > (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("smtp.$NAME.de" 587 nil nil))) >> > >> > (which, according to the documentation, should work...) >> > >> > And it works with port 25, so servername, user & password are correct. >> >> What happens when you try to send an e-mail with this configuration? > It works too. But without STARTTLS. > >> How do you know gnutls-cli is not used? > "strace -f" starttls is searched but not found. "gnutls-cli" isn't > mentioned anywhere > in the log file. Are you using the XEmacs mail-lib smtpmail.el? It doesn't support starttls via GnuTLS. I've fixed that in XEmacs CVS now, so try the new packages when they are released.