From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58271 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Steven E. Harris" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap problem solved by removing .agentview and .overview Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:43:28 -0700 Organization: SEH Labs Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <871xidtl04.fsf@mail.contactor.se> <4n4qn3t1sj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r7q7hqya.fsf@ion.xlipstream.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1092685494 3299 80.91.224.253 (16 Aug 2004 19:44:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6812@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Aug 16 21:44:44 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BwnPQ-0004v9-00 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:44:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BwnOO-0005ah-00; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:43:40 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BwnOH-0005ab-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:43:33 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BwnOG-0004Tu-0Z for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from W003275.na.alarismed.com (unknown [204.193.55.129]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EBA3A0034 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:43:31 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sharris by W003275.na.alarismed.com with local (Exim 4.41) id I2K1GG-0002V4-J1 for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:43:28 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87r7q7hqya.fsf@ion.xlipstream.com> (Chris Green's message of "Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:34:53 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, cygwin32) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58271 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58271 Chris Green writes: > When the session times out, I have to M-g to get nnimap to reconnect > to the server. I have similar trouble using nnimap with openssl and starttls on Cygwin. There seems to be some problem with how Gnus or XEmacs detects that a connection dropped. Sometimes when I go to check for new messages in an nnimap group, I'll try, say, "1-g" to check groups at level one. That will hang, so I'll hit C-g to cancel (sometimes it takes many tries), then place my cursor on the group in question and hit M-g. That /sometimes/ checks the messages again with the same dropped or corrupted connection, so I have to stop Gnus again, go to the Server buffer, and try to close the supposedly open connection there. Of course, trying to close the connection makes Gnus hang again, so several more M-g attempts may finally yield Gnus recognizing that it has no open connection to this server. Only at that point can I tell Gnus to open a fresh connection to check if I have any new messages. This whole process usually takes close to a minute and around 50 keystrokes. I don't notice the same problems, at least to the same degree, with direct connections to the IMAP servers. It's those programs in between Gnus and the IMAP servers such as openssl and starttls that aggravate these flaky connection problems. Even worse is trying to quit Gnus. I notice that for around the last year of keeping up to date with CVS, Gnus does not quit cleanly if any of its open connections had dropped. I have to manually kill some or all of the openssl and starttls processes, as well as hit C-g many times, to get Gnus to shut down. I can't tell if this problem is directly related to nnimap or not. -- Steven E. Harris