From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58197 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Steven E. Harris" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: authinfo/netrc file encryption status -- GnuPG Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:55:34 -0700 Organization: SEH Labs Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nwu0u8zht.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4noem1tmmp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4nk6wlzbc2.fsf@koz.bwh.harvard.edu> <4n4qnl8mnw.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4noelsxi20.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091660261 27224 80.91.224.253 (4 Aug 2004 22:57:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6738@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Aug 05 00:57:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BsUhN-0008DJ-00 for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2004 00:57:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BsUfl-000304-00; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:55:49 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BsUfd-0002zw-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:55:41 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BsUfb-0003og-Jh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:55:39 -0500 Original-Received: from W003275.na.alarismed.com (unknown [204.193.55.129]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D9F3A0041 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:55:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sharris by W003275.na.alarismed.com with local (Exim 4.41) id I1Y2CN-0002WO-6I for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:55:35 -0700 Original-To: "Ding Mailing List" Mail-Followup-To: "Ding Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <4noelsxi20.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "3 Aug 2004 13:11:51 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, cygwin32) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58197 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58197 "Ted Zlatanov" writes: > I tested them, let me know if you get good results too. More feedback after using the updates for most of the day: I now need to type my .authinfo decryption password more often than I used to have to type the individual server passwords. I have gnus-encrypt-password-cache-expiry set to 600, or ten minutes. Now, whenever I contact a server that I haven't exchanged data with for ten minutes, Gnus prompts me for my decryption password. Without an encrypted .authinfo -- one missing the password specifications to begin with -- Gnus will only prompt me for a password if the server has disconnected, and even then Gnus still seems to cache the passwords until I close a server manually. The distinction here is that with an encrypted .authinfo, expiration of the password cache seems to cause Gnus to think that it needs to re-authenticate, even if it's not necessary with an .authinfo missing passwords altogether. Of course my descriptions involve a lot of hand-waving because I don't know how Gnus actually handles server disconnects and authentication requests. I'm just comparing against the "normal" behavior I've grown accustomed to over the last few years. Summarizing: With no passwords in a non-encrypted .authinfo file, I type a password for each server each time I start Gnus, and I usually don't have to repeat that password until I exit and restart Gnus. With passwords in an encrypted .authinfo file, I have to type the decryption password every gnus-encrypt-password-cache-expiry period. Is that the expected behavior? -- Steven E. Harris