From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67680 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87wsg345oo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86wsg2546l.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86abct3o4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224959331 4615 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2008 18:28:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ted Zlatanov , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 25 20:29:52 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KtntX-0005sl-3A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:29:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtnsQ-0004gc-9X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktnro-0004Qa-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktnrl-0004Oy-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34892 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktnrl-0004Og-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:13784 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ktnrj-0000fT-IS; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:27:59 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEANMBA0lFxLrB/2dsb2JhbACBdb5yg0+BDQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,484,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="28858364" Original-Received: from 69-196-186-193.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.186.193]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 25 Oct 2008 14:27:57 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0B3788E6C; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:27:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:01:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105003 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67680 Archived-At: > I think completing utf8 to utf-8 is the best solution as you and Stephen > described, so it's worth some code. > It would look strange for completion to make such a change within a > word of the user's input. It may be ok, but let's not forget the > easy alternative: accept that input without having it visibly change > in the minibuffer. Agreed. > For instance, completing-read could accept a list of alternatives > that are valid if entered, but should not affect completion. It's just easier to do a "loose match" than to hardcode a list of alternatives. Stefan