From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/63870 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `.newsrc.eld' saves chinese group name in wrong coding Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87mz7tm2wn.fsf@furball.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161630772 3899 80.91.229.2 (23 Oct 2006 19:12:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, yamaoka@jpl.org, id.brep@gmail.com, ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 23 21:12:47 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc5Cw-00047b-EY for gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:11:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc5Cv-00089S-JZ for gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc5Cs-00088U-6a for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc5Cm-00086D-Uo for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc5Cm-000864-J9 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gc5Cf-0005W3-CK; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:17 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C512CF1B9; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8103A3FE2; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 62EA16CABE; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon\, 23 Oct 2006 06\:16\:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for CVS Emacs." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:14751 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:63870 Archived-At: >> Agreed, but note that this problem is as much on the unibyte side as it is >> on the multibyte side > Not if I never let unibyte strings into my buffers and strings (modulo > bugs, of course). I don't follow. Not that it matters. My point was simply if you stay 100% within multibyte, it all works, and if you stay 100% in unibyte it all works, and it's only when you mix them two that things don't work. So the problem is neither with unibyte nor with multibyte but with their interaction: the problem takes its root in the conflation of the concept of byte and the concept of char. Stefan