From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68722 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sending attachments Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:22:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k52rzyn1.fsf@benthic.rattlesnake.com> <873a9fw6dt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87y6r7yp1y.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <0922916E-B9DD-41C4-8A3D-8550CDD56B62@mit.edu> <83r5ww1m3k.fsf@gnu.org> <871vovsvi8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83ljn324xd.fsf@gnu.org> <87skhbrdz3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83hbxr0zc6.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbxqrha4.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247667800 29288 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2009 14:23:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, yamaoka@jpl.org, eliz@gnu.org, yandros@MIT.EDU, miles@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M17147@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 15 16:23:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MR5O2-0002bY-6A for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:23:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MR5Np-0001UW-BJ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:22:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MR5Nn-0001UH-Kz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:22:55 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MR5Nm-0001mV-1C for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:22:55 -0500 Original-Received: from tomts20.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.74] helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1MR5OJ-00082S-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:23:27 +0200 Original-Received: from toip6.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.125]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090715142241.OEFG6916.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip6.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:22:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvYEAH+BXUpBXr7R/2dsb2JhbACBUc9GhAkF Original-Received: from bas1-montreal02-1096728273.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ceviche.home) ([65.94.190.209]) by toip6.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2009 10:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7472FB4136; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:22:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:35:04 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68722 gmane.emacs.devel:112494 Archived-At: > Nobody (atleast I do not) has no issues with setting mail-user-agent > to message-user-agent; Which is wy I did it. > But your insistance to remove a perfectly usable mode that people > actually prefer, and wish to continue to use _and_ maintain, is not > productive. Where did I insist to remove it? It's still there, isn't it? I do indeed want to obsolete it. I also want to make strings and defconst immutable, and let be lexically scoped, and ... Some of those will hopefully happen within my lifetime, others not. Obsoleting mail-mode actually requires some amount of technical work, and I have better things to do, so don't expect it to happen any time soon, especially since it would require an enormous amount of social-work along side. But I do oppose very strongly the addition of etach: if someone wants to add MIME features to mail-mode, it should be by bringing mail-mode and message-mode closer to each other. Stefan