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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: 'Chong Yidong' <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: smtp crap
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:36:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvhb3g2oca.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8762jwfjsj.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:34:20 +0900")

>>> Even if it works flawlessly, this "feature" should _not_ be the default.
>> As long as we don't have a better solution, yes it should be
>> the default.  And for Emacs-24 we won't have a better solution so it
>> will be the default.
> So, this presumes that "smtp-using-user-prompted-info" is on average
> more reliable than "use sendmail," even in the case where sendmail can
> be invoked.

I'd hope that any user who's not dead-set on using Emacs's smtpmail
support will simply say "use mailclient".  So the likelihood of wrong
smtp setup should be rather low.

> Is there data to back up this presumption?

No.  Especially given that the current prompt doesn't really offer
mailclient as an option, so that needs to be fixed first.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-11  3:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-08  2:02 Miles Bader
2011-10-08  4:14 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-08  6:17   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08  6:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08  7:03       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08 13:47       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-08 14:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-09 14:50           ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2011-10-09 23:58             ` Tim Cross
2011-10-10 11:19               ` Richard Riley
2011-10-08 14:38         ` Drew Adams
2011-10-09  5:53         ` Tim Cross
2011-10-10 21:43         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-10 22:05           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-10 22:08           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-10 22:12             ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  3:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  5:38               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11  5:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  7:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 12:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 13:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 15:42                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 17:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 18:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 19:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 19:46                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-11 21:32                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 22:24                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-11 20:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 14:53                   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 16:00                     ` PJ Weisberg
2011-10-11 16:24                       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 21:21                         ` Tim Cross
2011-10-11 22:00                           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 22:41                             ` Tim Cross
2011-10-11 22:54                               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 22:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 23:11                             ` Tim Cross
2011-10-12  0:01                               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12  8:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 14:04                       ` Jason Rumney
2011-10-12 14:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12  1:30                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-12  3:22                   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12  4:50                   ` Tim Cross
2011-10-12  6:33                   ` joakim
2011-10-12  8:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 10:24                       ` joakim
2011-10-12 11:32                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12  9:12                     ` Lennart Borgman
2011-10-12 14:16                       ` Jason Rumney
2011-10-12 14:34                         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-10-12 14:47                           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12 15:21                             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-10-12 11:29                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12  8:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08  8:17     ` David Engster
2011-10-08  8:52     ` Bastien
2011-10-08 12:36     ` Miles Bader
2011-10-08 14:10     ` Harry Putnam
2011-10-10 21:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-10 22:06       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-11  3:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-10 22:08       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  0:34       ` Miles Bader
2011-10-11  3:36         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-10-11  4:20           ` Miles Bader
2011-10-11  5:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  5:38               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  5:38             ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  5:38           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 17:58       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 18:14         ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-10-26 21:48         ` chad
2011-10-26 22:32           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 23:13             ` chad
2011-10-27  0:08               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-27  2:51               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-27  0:23         ` Tim Cross
2011-10-27  1:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-09  1:28 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-09  6:06   ` Miles Bader
2011-10-09 14:55     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-08  2:08 Miles Bader

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