From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76836 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874o836dfv.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297891434 1524 80.91.229.12 (16 Feb 2011 21:23:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Ding Mailing List To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25175@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 16 22:23:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ppoqk-0006Er-1q for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:23:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PpoqN-0001LZ-Ql; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:23:27 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PpoqM-0001LE-0G for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:23:26 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PpoqK-0006jX-9n for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:23:25 -0600 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PpoqI-0001E0-Ul for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:23:23 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAHvPW01MCqmX/2dsb2JhbACmB3S9KoMdgkEEhQiPRw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,482,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="91926528" Original-Received: from 76-10-169-151.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.169.151]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 16 Feb 2011 16:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 25E5A66188; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:22:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <874o836dfv.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:29:08 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76836 gmane.emacs.bugs:44197 Archived-At: > I think this is fixed in the Gnus trunk as far as the auth-source > credentials go (Lars will have to fix the nnimap code failure on empty > credentials). I'll try again and let you know of remaining problems. > I have two usability questions (cross-posting to the Gnus mailing list): > 1) should we have a global override to say "never add netrc entries", or > should the prompt be Y/N/y/n instead of just y-or-n-p, or should the > save question be asked only once per file, or something else? I used to always hit "y" to the question "remember the password", and now I simply always hit "n" to the question "save the password in .authinfo.gpg", so it's no worse than in Emacs-23. If hitting "n" once will remember not to prompt ever again, the only downside I can see is if someone later decides to change her mind, so we should have a simple way to say revert the decision in the future. Maybe the password prompt itself could somehow provide the ability to say "RET + save", tho it's more important for this feature to be easy to find than to be quick. > 2) should auth-source let-bind the password-cache timeout to something > larger? The default is pretty short and for auth-source I think at > least 30 minutes are reasonable. It could be a customizable integer. I'm not sure what this entails, but until now, Emacs has been caching my password for the whole session (typically several days) and I like that. I would not want to have to re-enter my password every half hour. Stefan