From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76904 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:37:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874o836dfv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sjvn3a4u.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87aahu8a06.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297996719 6286 80.91.229.12 (18 Feb 2011 02:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 02:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ted Zlatanov , bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25242@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 18 03:38:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqGEr-0002ui-Hr for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:38:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PqGE7-00024g-2E; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:37:47 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PqGE4-00024K-VN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:37:44 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PqGE3-00049d-Pv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:37:44 -0600 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PqGE2-0000iz-G1; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:37:42 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAGdpXU1FxKd1/2dsb2JhbACmHnS8IIMYBQeCOgSFCo9P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,184,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="92055166" Original-Received: from 69-196-167-117.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.167.117]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 17 Feb 2011 21:37:35 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2737966188; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:37:35 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87aahu8a06.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:24:57 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76904 gmane.emacs.bugs:44227 Archived-At: >>>> I think this is fixed in the Gnus trunk as far as the auth-source >>>> credentials go (Lars will have to fix the nnimap code failure on empty >>>> credentials). With today's code, I could connect again, thank you. But the prompts are poor: - for the user name, the prompt says something like "[USER?]diro:143", which is very cryptic. While I know why there's a "143" there, there's no reason to expect users to know that (my .gnus doesn't mention any port number). Worse: I really have no clue what the "USER?" is about. - for the password, the prompt again mentioned 143, which I also thing is not warranted. - then I get prompted to save the password, which is the worst of the three: - the prompt is *very* long (more than 80 chars). - it includes the password in cleartext (WTF?). - none of the extra data is really something I care about when deciding whether I want to save my password in .authinfo.gpg. It's just distracting from the main issue. -- Stefan