From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66708 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: functionp bug Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207596276 3100 80.91.229.12 (7 Apr 2008 19:24:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 19:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 07 21:25:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JiwxF-0005VJ-Bs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:24:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jiwwc-0002V3-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JiwwX-0002Rh-2n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JiwwV-0002P1-PP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JiwwV-0002Oq-JS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182] helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JiwwV-000853-GM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:47 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoFACcS+kdMCpOw/2dsb2JhbACBXKlA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,618,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="18086040" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2008 15:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.147.176]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id NXE53834; Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 42C438568; Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:23:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:40:54 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94614 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66708 Archived-At: > There are around 70 (functionp somevar) in Gnus. I'd guess that many > of these expect `functionp' to return non-nil for special forms (or, > if, and, ...). All the places that call `functionp' and expect it to return t for `or', and `if', have a bug, because they should also accept `when' for which `functionp' has been returning nil for a loooong time now. > Maybe it is possible to fix them all, but is it really the right thing > to make such an incompatible change? What is the reason for > this change? That the strange definition of `functionp' was never what was really needed: if special-forms should be accepted, than so should macros. Stefan