From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67625 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224487686 27876 80.91.229.12 (20 Oct 2008 07:28:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 20 09:28:56 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KrlLZ-0004iy-Oa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:22:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35490 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KrlKU-0004dI-Ht for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KrlKQ-0004d3-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KrlKO-0004cr-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35880 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KrlKN-0004co-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:07 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:2339 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KrlKM-0005GZ-88; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:06 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMFAPyV+0hFxLrB/2dsb2JhbACBcr4Qg2yBCg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,449,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="28589692" Original-Received: from 69-196-186-193.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.186.193]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2008 23:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 883167F20; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:21:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:14:09 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104639 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67625 Archived-At: > Depends on the particular case you're thinking of. I already proposed > mm-charset-synonym-alist for the case of charsets in MIME messages. > That would work only when the character set is specified in a MIME > message, and only for Gnus. It would be much better to fix the > same problem in a general way that applies for all the places > in Emacs that you can specify a coding system. Why fix just > part of the problem? Yes, we should probably provide at least a function that we could call `get-coding-system' and which would take a string and return a coding-systm or nil. It would then take care of ignoring case differences a well as addition/removal of dash/underscore/etc.. chars. Stefan