From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/29056 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lconrad@world.std.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Wishlist for oGnus Date: 02 Feb 2000 11:01:32 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: lconrad@world.std.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165792 555 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:03:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A46D051F for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:03:36 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB21539; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:02:35 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 02 Feb 2000 10:02:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16410 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:02:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from gamesville.com (gtw.nineco.com [206.166.153.130]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB8CD051F for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:01:54 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from acme47.nineco.com (IDENT:lconrad@acme47.nineCo.com [192.168.0.54]) by gamesville.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28332 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:01:21 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #0j-Ll[fajrfupWYMv&wa\m7!Sh=&3;JE-_&M-L,ULz(aE8iu%m1SHa5wG.V{3B:Fdnd/T# O -}0pPGYw%t1z`o&T_c=)p8l[}7R\={[@B*Jyj*.L4 hnJ*AXb In-Reply-To: Karl Kleinpaste's message of "21 Jan 2000 11:15:58 -0500" Original-Lines: 67 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29056 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29056 >>>>> "Karl" == Karl Kleinpaste writes: Karl> Most of what I want is mail-specific. Karl> * Baby's First Mail In Gnus. (lots of good ideas snipped) Another aspect of starting to use mail in gnus that intimidates first-time users is how to find the groups once you've started splitting them. The manual says: manual> Getting Started Reading Mail manual> ---------------------------- manual> It's quite easy to use Gnus to read your new mail. You manual> just plonk manual> the mail backend of your choice into manual> `gnus-secondary-select-methods', and things will happen manual> automatically. ... manual> You will probably want to split the mail into several manual> groups, though: manual> (setq nnmail-split-methods manual> '(("junk" "^From:.*Lars Ingebrigtsen") manual> ("crazy" manual> "^Subject:.*die\\|^Organization:.*flabby") manual> ("other" ""))) manual> This will result in three new `nnml' mail groups being manual> created: manual> `nnml:junk', `nnml:crazy', and `nnml:other'. All the mail manual> that doesn't fit into the first two groups will be placed manual> in the last group. manual> This should be sufficient for reading mail with Gnus. Let me quote from a recent gnu.emacs.gnus posting: newbie> I am sorry if this has been asked. I tried reading the newbie> manual, but haven't found a solution. The problem, I am newbie> having is with reading mail from my ISP using "nnml" newbie> backend. Gnus on startup connects to my ISP, ans gathers newbie> the mail, but does not display it in the group buffer. I newbie> tried the command, "A z" to display zombies and I get the newbie> response saying, No zombies. kai> The following should be tried in this order: `F', `A k', `A kai> z', `A A'. Type `u' on a group to subscribe to it. In the kai> long lists, you may wish to use `C-s nnml' to search for this kai> string. I think the right thing is to change the behavior of gnus so that the example in the manual "just works", and people don't have to try several undocumented key sequences in the right order to find their mail. I don't know what the best way to do this would be -- maybe changing the default level for a newly created nnml group? If we don't do that, I think adding documentation about how to find the groups created by nnmail-split-methods to the Getting Started Reading Mail section of the manual would be a good idea. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139