From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/29741 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Laura Conrad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A release, perhaps? Date: 12 Apr 2000 10:23:28 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87k8i4w3hn.fsf@donut.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035166362 4488 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:12:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDA7D051E for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB27614; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:24:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:23:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15086 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:23:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from gamesville.com (gtw.nineco.com [206.166.153.130]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43192D051E for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from acme47.nineco.com (IDENT:lconrad@acme47.nineCo.com [192.168.0.54]) by gamesville.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14510 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:23:38 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #0j-Ll[fajrfupWYMv&wa\m7!Sh=&3;JE-_&M-L,ULz(aE8iu%m1SHa5wG.V{3B:Fdnd/T# O -}0pPGYw%t1z`o&T_c=)p8l[}7R\={[@B*Jyj*.L4 hnJ*AXb In-Reply-To: "David Z. Maze"'s message of "11 Apr 2000 20:46:12 -0400" Original-Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29741 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29741 >>>>> "David" == David Z Maze writes: David> Traffic on gnu.emacs.gnus suggests that, if I upgrade to David> the latest CVS version of Gnus, all of my problems (at David> least with get-posting-charset) will be solved. I've David> worked on enough projects to distrust this; an arbitrary David> snapshot of something out of CVS is as likely to work David> properly as to crash Emacs horribly every time I start it David> up. I think it's a little better than that. I did have a pretty bad experience once since we've had the CVS, but I reported it promptly, and the subsequent traffic suggested that if I hadn't, someone else would have. I think enough people are getting CVS pretty often and using it pretty heavily that if you're: reading the ding list have the last stable version to go back to set mail-source-delete-incoming to nil you should be pretty safe. I was missing a couple of those points when I hit the bad version. This is how I know to write the list. If there are things I did right without thinking about it that other people have found out about the hard way, please add them to the list now. David> In the good old days of Gnus 5.6, there would be a Gnus David> release every week or two. Not every release worked, but David> there was at least a semblance of quality control. It'd David> certainly be nice to be able to periodically pull down a David> prerelease version of Gnus that's more reputable. I agree with all of this, but not enough to volunteer to do the QA. I think the days when there were regular releases were also the days when Lars was working something like full time on gnus. What we have in CVS is a lot of people doing small occasional fixes, which isn't conducive to the kind of work that goes into a release with quality control. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139