From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15490 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: I'm going insane Date: 30 Jun 1998 20:20:08 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154512 22351 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:55:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA23610 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:16:07 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26991 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAT02847; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:09:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10228 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:08:57 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 28813 invoked by uid 504); 30 Jun 1998 21:08:05 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 28810 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1998 21:08:04 -0000 Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (root@161.53.2.130) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 1998 21:08:03 -0000 Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id UAA27620; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:20:08 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: Mie8:rOV<\c/~z{s.X4A{!?vY7{drJ([U]0O=W/xDi&N7XG KV^$k0m3Oe/)'e%3=$PCR&3ITUXH,cK>]bci&Ff%x_>1`T(+M2Gg/fgndU%k*ft [(7._6e0n-V%|%'[c|q:;}td$#INd+;?!-V=c8Pqf}3J In-Reply-To: François Pinard's message of "30 Jun 1998 11:32:55 -0400" Original-Lines: 36 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.22/XEmacs 21.0 - "Swedish Landrace" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15490 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15490 François Pinard writes: > > (Splkt! How come XEmacs' MULE never had these problems?) > > Hrvoje often sends me friendly teases, trying to convince to jump > into the XEmacs effort, while I'm not even a XEmacs user (yet :-). > So far, I could bear the needles he throws in my direction. But > now, *now*, Lars, what will I do? Do you fully realize you just > gave him a big stock of grenades? :-) My teases have mostly resulted from the fact that your mails insisted on prefixing `ç' with \201 (in octal), which was both incomprehensible to anything but MULE-ized Emacs, *and* ugly to behold. When regarding XEmacs 20 solution of Mule features, there are two distinct cases one should consider: 1) XEmacs compiled without Mule (which is, in fact, the default) -- similar to XEmacs 19.16 or GNU Emacs 19.34; 2) XEmacs compiled with Mule. The fact that XEmacs allows you to do #1 is a Good Thing in and of itself. However, the real comparison should be made between GNU Emacs 20 and case #2. Some people claim that XEmacs implementation of Mule, while somewhat slower, is much cleaner than what GNU Emacs 20.2 has done. As far as I can tell from watching the development, GNU Emacs 20.3 is getting to act very similar to XEmacs 20. -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Jone's law: The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.