* Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
@ 1998-02-03 18:37 Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-04 15:15 ` Simon Josefsson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-03 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
(version . "20.2.1")))
Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-03 18:37 Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-04 15:15 ` Simon Josefsson
1998-02-04 17:42 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-04 17:54 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 1998-02-04 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> (version . "20.2.1")))
>
> Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 15:15 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 1998-02-04 17:42 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-04 19:13 ` Bud Rogers
1998-02-04 17:54 ` Eze Ogwuma
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-04 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> > (version . "20.2.1")))
> >
> > Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> > can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
>
> Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
XEmacs reports an Error with this.
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 15:15 ` Simon Josefsson
1998-02-04 17:42 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-04 17:54 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-04 18:35 ` David S. Goldberg
1998-02-04 19:01 ` Simon Josefsson
1 sibling, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-04 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> > (version . "20.2.1")))
> >
> > Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> > can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
>
> Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
Do you have a similar line at the end of your *.eld files? Are your
versions on Emacsen the same?
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 17:54 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-04 18:35 ` David S. Goldberg
1998-02-04 19:25 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-04 19:01 ` Simon Josefsson
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: David S. Goldberg @ 1998-02-04 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Simon Josefsson, ding
I took a look at this because I'm about to start playing with xemacs
and I'd like to use both for gnus while I'm deciding whether to switch
or just use emacs / xemacs for different things. It looks like what
you're seeing is part of gnus-format-specs, which is mostly dealt with
in gnus-spec.el. I'm not sure it'll help, but there's a function,
gnus-update-format-specifications that will redo all the format specs
if the emacs-version doesn't match the version stored in .newsrc.eld.
Is it possible that that could be called out of gnus-startup-hook to
solve your problem? I suppose I'll find out for myself soon enough,
but I don't know for sure when I'll get to it.
--
Dave Goldberg
Post: The Mitre Corporation\MS B305\202 Burlington Rd.\Bedford, MA 01730
Phone: 781-271-3887
Email: dsg@mitre.org
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 17:54 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-04 18:35 ` David S. Goldberg
@ 1998-02-04 19:01 ` Simon Josefsson
1998-02-04 19:44 ` Eze Ogwuma
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 1998-02-04 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> > > The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> > > (version . "20.2.1")))
> > >
> > > Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> > > can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
> >
> > Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
-- *yikes*, I meant 'without'
>
> Do you have a similar line at the end of your *.eld files? Are your
> versions on Emacsen the same?
I frequently use FSF Emacs 20.2 and various flavours of XEmacs 20.x
and haven't had any problem. I've also tested XEmacs 19.15 and FSF
Emacs 19.3x without any Gnus-related problems. Right now my
.newsrc.eld ends with:
(version . "20.3 \"Vatican City\" XEmacs Lucid")
What error messages are you getting, more specifically?
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 17:42 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-04 19:13 ` Bud Rogers
1998-02-04 19:22 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Bud Rogers @ 1998-02-04 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> writes:
>
> > Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > > The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> > > (version . "20.2.1")))
> > >
> > > Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> > > can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
> >
> > Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
>
> XEmacs reports an Error with this.
>
> --
> Eze Ogwuma
>
>From the Gnus FAQ at http://www.ccs.neu.edu/software/contrib/gnus/
Q1.7 How do I run Gnus on both Emacs and XEmacs?
You don't. Gnus is distributed with both emacsen, use the version of
Gnus that comes with your emacs.
Hope this helps.
--
Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net>
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 19:13 ` Bud Rogers
@ 1998-02-04 19:22 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-04 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Eze Ogwuma, ding
Bud Rogers <budr@tanet.net> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> writes:
> >
> > > Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> > >
> > > > The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> > > > (version . "20.2.1")))
> > > >
> > > > Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> > > > can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
> > >
> > > Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
> >
> > XEmacs reports an Error with this.
> >
> > --
> > Eze Ogwuma
> >
>
> >From the Gnus FAQ at http://www.ccs.neu.edu/software/contrib/gnus/
>
> Q1.7 How do I run Gnus on both Emacs and XEmacs?
>
> You don't. Gnus is distributed with both emacsen, use the version of
> Gnus that comes with your emacs.
>
> Hope this helps.
Not really. You're assuming that I am running external versions of
Gnus. This happens whether I'm using the distributed versions or
external versions.
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 18:35 ` David S. Goldberg
@ 1998-02-04 19:25 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-04 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Simon Josefsson, ding
dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) writes:
> I took a look at this because I'm about to start playing with xemacs
> and I'd like to use both for gnus while I'm deciding whether to switch
> or just use emacs / xemacs for different things. It looks like what
> you're seeing is part of gnus-format-specs, which is mostly dealt with
> in gnus-spec.el. I'm not sure it'll help, but there's a function,
> gnus-update-format-specifications that will redo all the format specs
> if the emacs-version doesn't match the version stored in .newsrc.eld.
> Is it possible that that could be called out of gnus-startup-hook to
> solve your problem? I suppose I'll find out for myself soon enough,
> but I don't know for sure when I'll get to it.
The only function I can find is gnus-update-format and this gives an
error when I run it.
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 19:01 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 1998-02-04 19:44 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-08 15:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-04 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
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Simon Josefsson <jas@pdc.kth.se> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > > > The end of my .newsrc-localhost.eld file looks like this:
> > > > (version . "20.2.1")))
> > > >
> > > > Because of this I can only use Gnus with one version of Emacs and I
> > > > can't use Xemacs. Why does Gnus do this?
> > >
> > > Why can't you use Xemacs? I use all kind of Emacsen with problems.
> -- *yikes*, I meant 'without'
> >
> > Do you have a similar line at the end of your *.eld files? Are your
> > versions on Emacsen the same?
>
> I frequently use FSF Emacs 20.2 and various flavours of XEmacs 20.x
> and haven't had any problem. I've also tested XEmacs 19.15 and FSF
> Emacs 19.3x without any Gnus-related problems. Right now my
> .newsrc.eld ends with:
>
> (version . "20.3 \"Vatican City\" XEmacs Lucid")
>
> What error messages are you getting, more specifically?
Mine used to have something like this but not any more. I'm using GNU
Emacs 20.2.1 and XEmacs 20.3.
I used to be able to use both but then I ran Qgnus for a while and
when I stopped running it I couldn't start Gnus on any version of
Emacs (I was using Red Hat 5.0 but went back to 4.2).
I found that I was unable to compile Qgnus on 4.2 with Emacs 19.x
because of an Emacs package that was required. I updated to my current
Emacsen to 20.x so that I could run Qgnus.
This is the error:
Signaling: (error "Error in /home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld")
signal(error ("Error in /home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld"))
cerror("Error in %s" "/home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld")
apply(cerror ("Error in %s" "/home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld"))
error("Error in %s" "/home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld")
byte-code("À ÁÂÃ\f\"!¬
ÅÆ\f\"À" [ding gnus-yes-or-no-p format "Error in %s; continue? " ding-file error "Error in %s"] 4)
gnus-read-newsrc-el-file("/home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.el")
gnus-read-newsrc-file(nil)
gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
byte-code("\b¬ ¬
 ª»ÃÄ!Å\x0e\x06!\x16\a\x0e\b¬\x0e «Ê \x0e\v«Ì ÍÎÏ\"ÐÑ\x0e\x12\b#Ó\x0e\x12!Ô ÕÖ!× ÃØ!Ñ" [dont-connect did-connect gnus-group-quit run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-dribble-read-file gnus-use-grouplens bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-setup-news nil level gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook] 4)
gnus-1(nil nil nil)
gnus(nil)
call-interactively(gnus)
command-execute(gnus t)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-04 19:44 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-08 15:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-02-08 16:59 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-08 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> This is the error:
>
> Signaling: (error "Error in /home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld")
What does the end of the .eld file look like?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-08 15:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-02-08 16:59 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-08 17:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-08 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > This is the error:
> >
> > Signaling: (error "Error in /home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.eld")
>
> What does the end of the .eld file look like?
(version . "20.2.1")))
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-08 16:59 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-08 17:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-02-08 19:17 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-08 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> > What does the end of the .eld file look like?
>
> (version . "20.2.1")))
What are the last two or three lines?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-08 17:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-02-08 19:17 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-08 20:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-08 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > > What does the end of the .eld file look like?
> >
> > (version . "20.2.1")))
>
> What are the last two or three lines?
This follows the topic a-list:
(setq gnus-format-specs '((article-mode "Gnus: %%b %S" (concat (format "Gnus: %%b %s" gnus-tmp-subject))) (summary-dummy "* %(: :%) %S\n" (progn (insert "* ") (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert ": :") (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert " " gnus-tmp-subject "\n"))) (summary-mode "Gnus: %%b [%A] %Z" (concat (format "Gnus: %%b [%d] %s" gnus-tmp-article-number gnus-tmp-unread-and-unselected))) (summary "%U%R%z%I%(%[%4L: %-20,20n%]%) %s\n" (progn (insert gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied gnus-tmp-score-char gnus-tmp-indentation) (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert (format "%c%4d: %-20s%c" gnus-tmp-opening-bracket gnus-tmp-lines (if (> (length gnus-tmp-name) 20) (substring gnus-tmp-name 0 20) gnus-tmp-name) gnus-tmp-closing-bracket)) (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert " " gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil "\n"))) (group-mode "Gnus: %%b {%M%:%S}" (concat (format "Gnus: %%b {%s%s%s
}!
!
!
" gnus-tmp-news-method gnus-tmp-colon gnus-tmp-news-server))) (group "%M%S%p%m%P%5y: %(%g%)%l\n" (progn (insert (format "%c%c%c%c%s%5s: " gnus-tmp-marked-mark gnus-tmp-subscribed gnus-tmp-process-marked (gnus-group-new-mail gnus-tmp-group) gnus-group-indentation gnus-tmp-number-of-unread)) (gnus-put-text-property (point) (progn (insert gnus-tmp-group) (point)) gnus-mouse-face-prop gnus-mouse-face) (insert gnus-tmp-grouplens "\n"))) (version . "20.2.1")))
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-08 19:17 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-08 20:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-02-08 21:31 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-08 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> > > > What does the end of the .eld file look like?
> > >
> > > (version . "20.2.1")))
> >
> > What are the last two or three lines?
>
> This follows the topic a-list:
Yes -- but that format spec looks ok to me.
Try putting the .newsrc.eld file into a buffer and type
`M-x eval-current-buffer RET' to see where the problem is.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-08 20:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-02-08 21:31 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-09 0:29 ` SL Baur
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-08 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > > > > What does the end of the .eld file look like?
> > > >
> > > > (version . "20.2.1")))
> > >
> > > What are the last two or three lines?
> >
> > This follows the topic a-list:
>
> Yes -- but that format spec looks ok to me.
>
> Try putting the .newsrc.eld file into a buffer and type
> `M-x eval-current-buffer RET' to see where the problem is.
I get the error:
Signaling: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
eval-buffer(#<buffer ".newsrc-localhost.eld"> nil)
#<compiled-function (from "simple.elc") (&optional printflag) "...(5)" [eval-buffer printflag] 3 673955 nil>()
call-interactively(eval-current-buffer)
command-execute(eval-current-buffer t)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
This is part of my file. It is the only part that contains "#".
(#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42
(mouse-face highlight face gnus-group-news-3-face)) 3 ((1 . 13981)
13983 (13985 . 13991) (13997 . 14004) 14006 (14009 . 14010) 14012
(14015 . 14018) (14021 . 14025) (14027 . 14029) (14031 . 14032) (14035
. 14038) (14041 . 14044) (14050 . 14051) 14055 14060 14062 14064 14068
14080 14083 (14085 . 14087) (14090 . 14092) (14097 . 14099) (14101
. 14102) 14106 14109 (14111 . 14112) 14114 14119 (14121 . 14122) 14124
14129 14131 (14133 . 14137) (14139 . 14149) (14156 . 14157) 14159
14161 (14163 . 14166) (14169 . 14170) (14174 . 14179) 14183 14186
14189 14192 14194 (14197 . 14198) (14205 . 14207) 14209 14215 14217
(14219 . 14220) (14228 . 14229) 14234 (14236 . 14237) (14241 . 14243)
(14246 . 14249) (14253 . 14254) (14257 . 14258) 14316 14417 14444
14479 (14525 . 14526) 14546) ((cache 12238 13613 13728 13783 13836
13859 13887 14051 14526) (tick 13613 13728 13783)) (nntp
"news.dircon.co.uk"))
(#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.programmer" 0 23 nil 23 48
(mouse-face highlight face gnus-group-news-3-face)) 3 ((1 . 105594)
105612 105781 106073 106076 106087 106122 106182 106232 106911) nil
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-08 21:31 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-09 0:29 ` SL Baur
1998-02-09 0:50 ` Eze Ogwuma
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: SL Baur @ 1998-02-09 0:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> This is part of my file. It is the only part that contains "#".
> (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42
...
> (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.programmer" 0 23 nil 23 48
Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 0:29 ` SL Baur
@ 1998-02-09 0:50 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-09 1:28 ` SL Baur
1998-02-09 8:18 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-02-09 9:47 ` Per Abrahamsen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-09 0:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > This is part of my file. It is the only part that contains "#".
>
>
> > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42
> ...
> > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.programmer" 0 23 nil 23 48
>
> Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
Not me. I didn't think they should be there. Perhaps the file was
corrupted when X crashed a while back.
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 0:50 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-09 1:28 ` SL Baur
1998-02-09 1:49 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: SL Baur @ 1998-02-09 1:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
>> Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
> Not me. I didn't think they should be there. Perhaps the file was
> corrupted when X crashed a while back.
The first snippet didn't look corrupted. The parens were balanced.
I've had my X server go west on me twice in the last couple weeks
while in Gnus (both times I had hit the next article button on the
toolbar) without .newsrc corruption, not that that has much if any
bearing on your situation.
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 1:28 ` SL Baur
@ 1998-02-09 1:49 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-09 2:02 ` SL Baur
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-09 1:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
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SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
>
> >> Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
>
> > Not me. I didn't think they should be there. Perhaps the file was
> > corrupted when X crashed a while back.
>
> The first snippet didn't look corrupted. The parens were balanced.
I tried taking out the "#" marks while leaving the parens intact but I
got this error:
Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp ("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42 (mouse-face highlight face gnus-group-news-3-face)))
intern(("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42 (mouse-face highlight face gnus-group-news-3-face)) [comp\.os\.linux\.setup 0 0 comp\.os\.linux\.development\.apps 0 comp\.os\.linux\.hardware 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnml:redhat\.digests\.v97\.p1 nnml:redhat\.digests\.v97\.p2 nnml:redhat\.digests\.v96\.p3 0 gnu\.announce 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 comp\.emacs\.xemacs 0 nnml:hurricane 0 nnml:sag nnml:inbox 0 0 0 null 0 0 0 0 0 ...])
gnus-make-hashtable-from-newsrc-alist()
gnus-read-newsrc-el-file("/home/zcaceog/.newsrc-localhost.el")
gnus-read-newsrc-file(nil)
gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
byte-code("\b¬ ¬
 ª»ÃÄ!Å\x0e\x06!\x16\a\x0e\b¬\x0e «Ê \x0e\v«Ì ÍÎÏ\"ÐÑ\x0e\x12\b#Ó\x0e\x12!Ô ÕÖ!× ÃØ!Ñ" [dont-connect did-connect gnus-group-quit run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-dribble-read-file gnus-use-grouplens bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-setup-news nil level gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook] 4)
gnus-1(nil nil nil)
gnus(nil)
call-interactively(gnus)
command-execute(gnus t)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 1:49 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-09 2:02 ` SL Baur
1998-02-09 2:47 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: SL Baur @ 1998-02-09 2:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> I tried taking out the "#" marks while leaving the parens intact but I
> got this error:
That's not likely to be correct. You had a `(#' ... `)' wrapped
around what looked like group info on a foreign nntp server.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 2:02 ` SL Baur
@ 1998-02-09 2:47 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-09 2:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > I tried taking out the "#" marks while leaving the parens intact but I
> > got this error:
>
> That's not likely to be correct. You had a `(#' ... `)' wrapped
> around what looked like group info on a foreign nntp server.
That's right, it's a foreign nntp server. I would have thought that
`(' ... `)' would have worked.
What I really want to know is why this file works just fine with Emacs
but not XEmacs?
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 0:29 ` SL Baur
1998-02-09 0:50 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-09 8:18 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-02-09 9:47 ` Per Abrahamsen
2 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1998-02-09 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > This is part of my file. It is the only part that contains "#".
>
>
> > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42
> ...
> > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.programmer" 0 23 nil 23 48
>
> Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
That looks like the FSFmacs crockish syntax for strings with text
properties. Try this:
(let ((a "somestring"))
(put-text-property 0 5 'foo 'bar a)
a)
=> "somestring" ; XEmacs
=> #("somestring" 0 5 (foo bar) 5 10 nil) ; FSFmacs
Familiar? In FSF Emacs text properties change the printed
representation of strings, and strings with properties might have
leaked to `.newsrc.eld', somehow.
This matter is even more confusing because given that Common Lisp uses
#(...) syntax for vectors.
--
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
--------------------------------+--------------------------------
* Vi is the God of editors.
* Emacs is the editor of Gods.
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 0:29 ` SL Baur
1998-02-09 0:50 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-09 8:18 ` Hrvoje Niksic
@ 1998-02-09 9:47 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] ` <6fk9b5kssq.fsf@bavur.dna.lth.se>
2 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-02-09 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > This is part of my file. It is the only part that contains "#".
>
>
> > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42
> ...
> > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.programmer" 0 23 nil 23 48
>
> Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
It look like Emacs print syntax for strings containing text properties.
They usually occur when someone calls `buffer-substring' instead of
`buffer-substring-no-properties'.
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
[not found] ` <6fk9b5kssq.fsf@bavur.dna.lth.se>
@ 1998-02-09 18:57 ` Eze Ogwuma
1998-02-09 20:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-09 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kurt Swanson <ksw@dna.lth.se> writes:
> Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
> > SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org> writes:
>
> > > Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > > > This is part of my file. It is the only part that contains "#".
>
>
> > > > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.help" 0 23 nil 23 42
> > > ...
> > > > (#("nntp+news.dircon.co.uk:comp.lang.java.programmer" 0 23 nil 23 48
>
> > > Who put in the #'s? That's not valid Emacs or XEmacs.
>
> > It look like Emacs print syntax for strings containing text properties.
>
> > They usually occur when someone calls `buffer-substring' instead of
> > `buffer-substring-no-properties'.
>
> There's also the posibility it is a symbol denoting that the next
> entity is a function, but I see this as less probable.
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> That looks like the FSFmacs crockish syntax for strings with text
> properties. Try this:
>
> (let ((a "somestring"))
> (put-text-property 0 5 'foo 'bar a)
> a)
> => "somestring" ; XEmacs
>
> => #("somestring" 0 5 (foo bar) 5 10 nil) ; FSFmacs
>
> Familiar? In FSF Emacs text properties change the printed
> representation of strings, and strings with properties might have
> leaked to `.newsrc.eld', somehow.
>
> This matter is even more confusing because given that Common Lisp uses
> #(...) syntax for vectors.
Hi,
Does anyone have some suggestions on how to proceed?
--
Eze Ogwuma
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 18:57 ` Eze Ogwuma
@ 1998-02-09 20:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-02-09 20:56 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-09 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> Does anyone have some suggestions on how to proceed?
Remove the text props.
#("group.name" gruft gruft gruft)
=>
"group.name"
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Bad .newsrc.eld created by Gnus
1998-02-09 20:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-02-09 20:56 ` Eze Ogwuma
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eze Ogwuma @ 1998-02-09 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Eze Ogwuma <typhoon@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
> > Does anyone have some suggestions on how to proceed?
>
> Remove the text props.
>
> #("group.name" gruft gruft gruft)
>
> =>
>
> "group.name"
This works just fine, now I can use XEmacs again.
My thanks to you Lars and to all the others who helped me with this.
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