From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/12926 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Alphabetetetetization Date: 24 Nov 1997 17:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87oh3awoxw.fsf@plants-doll.enami.but-b.or.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152379 6443 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:19:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21639 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:37:57 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05815 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:37:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id RAA29262 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:06:46 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07130; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:06:02 +0100 (MET) Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: Mie8:rOV<\c/~z{s.X4A{!?vY7{drJ([U]0O=W/xDi&N7XG KV^$k0m3Oe/)'e%3=$PCR&3ITUXH,cK>]bci&Ff%x_>1`T(+M2Gg/fgndU%k*ft [(7._6e0n-V%|%'[c|q:;}td$#INd+;?!-V=c8Pqf}3J In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "24 Nov 1997 13:47:46 +0100" Original-Lines: 38 X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.12/XEmacs 20.3 - "Chisinau" Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12926 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12926 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > > However, the practice in most European and American countries is for > > the order to be: > > > > First-name Last-name > > You mean: > > "Given name" "Family name" > > Calling them "first" and "last" is rilly culturally imperialistic. > Or something. Probably. But keep in mind that terms "Given name" and "Family name" are probably just as faulty. > > Thus `Hrvoje Niksic', `Jon Babcock', etc. However, some languages -- > > most notably Japanese and Hungarian -- reverse that order. The > > "normal" way to write my name in Hungarian would be `Niksic Hrvoje'. > > Oh, I didn't know that. Is that just when writing, or do you say the > names that way as well? I don't know, but I am certain for writing. The poster for the "Satan Tango" named the director "Tarr Bela", where Bela is the first (given) name. If I were to guess, I would say they pronunce it Tarr Bela, too. Any Hungarians to confirm/deny it here? -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- * Vi is the God of editors. * Emacs is the editor of Gods.