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From: Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr>
Subject: Re: Alphabetetetetization
Date: 24 Nov 1997 13:04:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kigoh3ajy6f.fsf@jagor.srce.hr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: enami tsugutomo's message of "24 Nov 1997 19:45:15 +0900"

enami tsugutomo <enami@but-b.or.jp> writes:

> Jon Babcock <jon@kanji.com> writes:
> 
> > Enami Tsugutomo -> Tsugutomo [surname] Enami [given name] 
> 
> I'll bet that `enami' is surname (familyname) and `tsugutomo' is given
> name :-)

We believe you.  :-)

However, the practice in most European and American countries is for
the order to be:

   First-name Last-name

Thus `Hrvoje Niksic', `Jon Babcock', etc.  However, some languages --
most notably Japanese and Hungarian -- reverse that order.  The
"normal" way to write my name in Hungarian would be `Niksic Hrvoje'.

I have seen two ways of solving this.  One is to conform to the widely 
used standard, and just reverse the order to be compatible with
English.  Thus Zoltan Hidvegi, the Zsh maintainer, writes his name
just like that, while in Hungary it would be `Hidvegi Zoltan'.

Those who do not want to adhere to this often use the other solution
-- caps.  For instance, Tomohiko Morioka, the TM maintainer, writes as
MORIOKA Tomohiko, MORIOKA being all-caps to show that it is the family 
name (or "last" name.)

-- 
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
--------------------------------+--------------------------------
4.  Thou shalt not warlorde a sig if it bee the sig of Kibo, nor if
    it bee the sig of the Inner Circle.


  reply	other threads:[~1997-11-24 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-11-23 15:21 Alphabetetetetization Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-11-23 17:05 ` Alphabetetetetization Jon Babcock
1997-11-24 10:45   ` Alphabetetetetization enami tsugutomo
1997-11-24 12:04     ` Hrvoje Niksic [this message]
1997-11-24 12:47       ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-11-24 16:06         ` Alphabetetetetization Hrvoje Niksic
1997-11-25 21:10           ` Alphabetetetetization Istvan Marko
1997-11-24 16:21         ` Alphabetetetetization Robert Pluim
     [not found]         ` <6f3ekmgvrn.fsf@bavur.dna.lth.se>
1997-11-24 17:39           ` Alphabetetetetization Jan Vroonhof
1997-11-24 12:28     ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Balker Rasmussen
1997-11-24 18:08     ` Alphabetetetetization Jon Babcock
1997-11-23 18:52 ` Alphabetetetetization Jon Babcock
1997-11-24  6:07   ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found] ` <6f67pjo4wf.fsf@bavur.dna.lth.se>
1997-11-24  6:05   ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-11-24 14:54   ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Balker Rasmussen
1997-11-25 18:26     ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1997-11-26 18:35       ` Alphabetetetetization Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen
1997-11-24 10:09 ` Alphabetetetetization Hrvoje Niksic
1997-11-24 12:43   ` Alphabetetetetization Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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