From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/12285 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus. Date: 23 Sep 1997 01:47:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151848 2945 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:10:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA16624 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:42:49 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA13871 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 19:38:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:47:40 +0200 Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.8.7/8.8.6) id BAA21526; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:47:34 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: Mie8:rOV<\c/~z{s.X4A{!?vY7{drJ([U]0O=W/xDi&N7XG KV^$k0m3Oe/)'e%3=$PCR&3ITUXH,cK>]bci&Ff%x_>1`T(+M2Gg/fgndU%k*ft [(7._6e0n-V%|%'[c|q:;}td$#INd+;?!-V=c8Pqf}3J In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "22 Sep 1997 18:38:46 -0400" Original-Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.9/XEmacs 20.3(beta23) - "Sarajevo" Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12285 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12285 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > I do not see the same degree of necessary change to the internals this time > around. But you said yourself that you did not see it in the first versions of Emacs 19, either. So things may be better by Emacs 20.19 -- or however long it takes. > Aside from MULE, most of the changes are the new and updated > packages, like Gnus. Everything else is literally window dressing. This is, of course, not true. Look at Erik Naggum's exhaustive article on the subject. Or, the NEWS file, for that matter. > For the time being I forsee no reason why Gnus will not continue to > work properly on Emacs 19.34, and so I do not see a reason to > abandon those who for whatever reason are going to continue to use > it instead of Emacs 20. Neither do I. But I do see the reason why Gnus might want to unbundle custom. The Emacs 20 users will have it bundled, and the Emacs 19 users will get it elsewhere. -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- "A Real Programmer's code can awe with its fiendish brilliance, even as its crockishness appalls."