From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19668 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: escape-quoted Date: 04 Dec 1998 16:45:56 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199812040856.JAA00237@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157975 12751 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:52:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25966 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:20:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21543; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:20:06 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:20:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01292 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:19:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (root@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25945 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:19:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA25906; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:45:56 +0100 (MET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h writes: > Fabrice POPINEAU writes: > > > This is the file coding system used by default on the latest > > pgnus-0.6[1-3] versions for XEmacs, but it is not defined unless > > XEmacs has been compiled with MULE support. Which is not the case > > under Win32. What's the proper solution ? Use 'no-conversion ? > > Are the coding systems used for XEmacsen without MULE support? Sometimes. Let me try to illustrate the situation. Traditionally, you would either compile XEmacs with, or without Mule. Compiled with Mule, you get multibyte chars, coding systems, fonts, and all that, including but not limited to 3x slowdown[1]. Compiled without Mule, you get something that looks more or less like XEmacs 19.16, with the addition of a new "character" type. The nice thing about Mule is its support for file coding systems, which allows one to cleanly (as far as anything in Mule is "clean") solve the problem of DOS and UNIX style text files. So, to avoid reimplementing a kludge, Andy Piper implemented a `--with-file-coding' configuration option that turns on only the file-coding-related Mule features. With that, you get the benefits of clean file coding support, without the slowdown of Muletilation. So currently, you can compile XEmacs in three ways: 1) Without Mule or file-coding. This is the default, and it makes most sense for the people using UNIX, and not caring about I18N. 2) With file-coding. This is done on MS Windows because of the newline stuff. 3) With Mule. This gets you the all-singing, all-dancing multibyte support, along with file-coding and stuff. This doesn't yet work under MS Windows. So that's history. [1] Someone said "30%", but he must have been kidding. -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- You know it's going to be a bad day when your twin brother forgot your birthday.