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Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof@math.ethz.ch> writes:

> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> 
> > > The solutions is of course to do it lazily, f.e. using the same
> > > technique lazy-shot uses.
> > 
> > Please, no!
> 
> ? Why not?  You have something that takes to long to precompute so
> you do it on demand? I fail to say why buttonizing is any different
> from syntax-highlighting in this regard.

It is not.  I don't like on-demand fontification either, both
conceptually (it makes scrolling slower), and implementationally (none
of the current implementations are really good).  In fact, if
half-cooked on-demand buttonization were added, it would make matters
worse, because if someone argued that buttonization was slow, the
standard argument would be: "use on-demand buttonization".

To conclude, the issues of buttonization speed and on-demand
buttonization are orthogonal, and should be treated as such.

-- 
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
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Idle RAM is the Devil's playground.