From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17755 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: compatibility request -- `q' in *Article* buffer shouldn't quit group Date: 11 Oct 1998 22:44:23 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156399 2555 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:26:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26044 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAF25392; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:15:57 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:44:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18126 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:44:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26030 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id WAA06593; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:44:23 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h writes: > > Yes, but that's because you are accustomed to TM. If it weren't for > > this TM's design decision, you would probably not do that. > > That's exactly the point. TM has been around for a *long* time -- > as long as Gnus 5 has been in existence. The Gnus FAQ recommended > it practically from day 1. It has been the default MIME package in > XEmacs since XEmacs 19.15. Gnus is now taking over that area itself > and it really should preserve backwards compatibility particularly > with respect to user (...) The phrase "backward compatibility" cannot apply here because TM has never been a part of Gnus. People who used TM did so "on their own responsibility". Incompatibly changing Gnus to satisfy former TM users would IMHO be plain wrong. > > What I mean is: pressing SPC in the Group buffer switches you to > > Summary. But pressing SPC in the Summary buffer doesn't switch > > you to Article buffer. This is why I think there is no good > > reason to make `q' in Article buffer switch to Summary. > > > Especially when we already have two commands to do that (`h' and > > `s'). Adding a fourth one looks like a real waste to me. > > Gnus is *changing* the binding of `q' which formerly meant quit the > MIME viewer There never was any MIME viewer in Gnus. > There's similar braindamage in BBDB 2 -- the M-TAB fuckage it > introduced has got to go. That key belongs to ispell. M-TAB was bound to `lisp-complete-symbol' until recently. The ispell binding is IMHO useless because there are too many possibilities for the completion attempt to be useful. But this is a totally different issue. -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Ask not for whom the tolls.