From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/12197 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Please unbundle the custom and widget libraries from qgnus. Date: 20 Sep 1997 21:49:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151775 2413 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:09:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25882 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:52:43 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04918 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 15:48:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:49:37 +0200 Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.8.7/8.8.6) id VAA22108; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 21:49:18 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: Mie8:rOV<\c/~z{s.X4A{!?vY7{drJ([U]0O=W/xDi&N7XG KV^$k0m3Oe/)'e%3=$PCR&3ITUXH,cK>]bci&Ff%x_>1`T(+M2Gg/fgndU%k*ft [(7._6e0n-V%|%'[c|q:;}td$#INd+;?!-V=c8Pqf}3J In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "19 Sep 1997 22:37:50 -0400" Original-Lines: 40 X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.5/XEmacs 20.3(beta22) - "Minsk" Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12197 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12197 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > >> Of course, if you want to remove custom dependancies entirely, I > >> am all for it. :) > > Hrvoje> Why? What do you see wrong with Custom? > > Specifically: the repeated lack of incorporating a simple patch that > I have provided on numerous occasions, allowing one to completely > disable colors in Gnus while still retaining faces. I seem to have missed this patch. Why don't you customize the Gnus faces to be colorless? > This is more of an issue with cus-face than custom. Then it's an issue with custom (if it indeed is an issue), too. > Generally: the fact that it takes ten times as long to effect a > change with custom than with a setq form, Custom will respect setq forms. Custom is not defvoo(doo). > the fact that it does some annoying things to an existing .emacs Only if you use customize, and explicitely choose `Save for future sessions' button. Even so, the XEmacs version doesn't use `.emacs'. > and the fact that there are at least three incompatable versions of > it in general circulation. That is to be remedied soon (or so we hope). -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Unspeakable horrors from outer space paralyze the living and resurrect the dead!