From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76266 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Imap split, does not work (of course) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 12:59:20 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <87r5bsleui.fsf@gnus.org> <87bp2uap6c.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87d3narn5f.fsf@maru.md5i.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296734390 22131 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2011 11:59:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:59:50 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24619@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 03 12:59:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pkxqi-0003S2-JT for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 12:59:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pkxqg-0002Xe-PC; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:59:42 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pkxqf-0002XO-Em for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:59:41 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pkxqe-0007tJ-21 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:59:41 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pkxqd-0007ZN-9y for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 12:59:39 +0100 Original-Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1535512bwz.17 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 03:59:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization :message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=q/+kfM02oqf55tf+Ka7R+08E2oX87aA/cIE9Z2AEgbQ=; b=I1O0ZlgYsmuIJdls2bRt4yJZT04UcDfLpVslRx/hL9uZrs7iejKHHAk8A9+8xKZDXS b3chVVC+YH6f93G1MvH4I3JWLdK05/265LUIFHwJW4s/11ghManiu68HOe+eTuYaeVno uvn+fIK25PJsqTaCdljrOIxwUcDvTNi14aI+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=FEHPSrw+w37AmCBwptaKqvC2uJyziIFmmirNGhDA2geD//wMmF69DdO24Pdo0hU+Qi f181tdHrG3wWxrLDgraI1lLuVk6LvPhGY+OvhrqMcXwhviDU9tWSeIuikjHHqrcfIY1n sBnhO1Ue9sPSiWkxd3b7fQD9m9bANh2tnGd/c= Original-Received: by 10.204.119.133 with SMTP id z5mr9703734bkq.72.1296734372219; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 03:59:32 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([85.183.18.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a17sm383504bku.11.2011.02.03.03.59.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 03 Feb 2011 03:59:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Steinar Bang's message of "Thu, 03 Feb 2011 09:47:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76266 Archived-At: Steinar Bang writes: >> Richard Riley writes: > >>> If someone could explain the concept of "backend slots" vs using "setq" >>> it would help me a lot. > > Slots are fields in Common Lisp-style "structs" > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/cl/Structures.html > > Whether that's the case for the gnus backend slots as well, I don't > know. But it seems likely. Thanks to you and Michael. Unfortunately, It doesn't really clarify things too much (to me) since the examples given here and elsewhere seem to alternate between using setq and these slots. It's not apparent to me when slots should be used : I had always (I guess incorrectly) assumed from other examples that if I use a "global" like (setq nnmail-xyz "blah") Then the "back end slot" would cleverly default to this if I didn't specifically set it in select-method parameters. Indeed, I posted my setup numerous times and had it commented on by some pretty knowledgable Gnus users before the recent thing about it being wrong since some are/should be back-end slots. I think I'll start my set up from scratch. It all used to work fine so I'm not exactly sure which part is broken. Cheers r.