From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23669 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Laura Conrad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: dict.el Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:39:06 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199907011551.LAA71563@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> <873dz76nog.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> <87g1375853.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> Reply-To: lconrad@world.std.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161359 3242 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:49:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05971 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB08906; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:47:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 02 Jul 1999 11:48:31 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28871 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:48:19 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from concord.com (concord.com [192.124.15.3]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05894 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.concord.com (mailhost [192.124.15.38]) by concord.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07447 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from calvin.concord.com by mailhost.concord.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id MAA11384; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from lconrad@localhost) by calvin.concord.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA23487; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #0j-Ll[fajrfupWYMv&wa\m7!Sh=&3;JE-_&M-L,ULz(aE8iu%m1SHa5wG.V{3B:Fdnd/T# O -}0pPGYw%t1z`o&T_c=)p8l[}7R\={[@B*Jyj*.L4 hnJ*AXb In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of 02 Jul 1999 18:27:52 +0200 Original-Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23669 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23669 Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > My only gripe with it is that they give 'ny=FC-, =F7-ky&-l&r as a > > pronunciation of nuclear. I thought only Homer Simpson said it that > > way. > > Not being a native speaker, I rest my case! :-) I do note, however, > that the first pronunciation they offer is 'n=FC-klE-&r. > By the old Webster's II standard, 'ny=FC-, =F7-ky&-l&r (I'm on a stone-age emacs, I assume that's what I would transliterate in 7-bit ascii as 'nyoo kyoo lar) should be included because it is quite widespread (Homer Simpson is in this case accurately reflecting working-class usage, a rarity on American television), but should be labeled something like "ill." for illiterate or at least "dial." for dialect. Newer dictionaries avoid such labels, but as Hrvoje points out, display their value judgements by the order with which they present things. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 , fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA