From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15194 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Blacka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Hotmail back/front/middle-end was Re: Free email services ... Date: 14 May 1998 10:32:09 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: Reply-To: davidb@netsol.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154271 20776 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:51:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07332 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 07:37:56 -0700 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (root@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08345 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:35:41 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAH27848; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:34:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 14 May 1998 09:32:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27835 for ; Thu, 14 May 1998 09:32:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 14192 invoked by uid 504); 14 May 1998 14:32:24 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14189 invoked from network); 14 May 1998 14:32:24 -0000 Original-Received: from shaker.internic.net (HELO shaker) (198.41.0.243) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 14 May 1998 14:32:23 -0000 Original-Received: from davidb by shaker with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yZz3J-00043u-00; Thu, 14 May 1998 10:32:09 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann's message of "14 May 1998 11:36:47 +0200" Original-Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.3/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15194 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15194 >>>>> "Kai" == Kai Grossjohann writes: >>>>> Andy Eskilsson writes: >> It would be easy to write a simple nntp-server program that gnus >> talked to and fetched mail from, but the main problem is how to >> post, and delete messages?? Kai> The file nndb.el contains the beginnings of a `writable nntp' Kai> implementation -- it is derived from nntp.el but provides a few Kai> additional commands for writing and deleting messages. I'm Kai> afraid it pretends to work but really doesn't, but maybe you can Kai> get some ideas from it. As you can see, defining a new Gnus Kai> backend isn't all that complicated. (It's only my lack of Lisp Kai> programming and my lack of understanding the Gnus backend stuff Kai> and the nnoo stuff that prevents this from really working.) Actually, nndb.el does work if you remove the (nntp-possibly-change-servers) commands. My guess is the nntp.el is not really fully implemented for inheritance, though. There seem to be a number of somewhat cricitcal functions and variables that are defun and defvar'ed instead of defoo and devoo'ed. -- David Blacka Software Engineer Product Development Team - Network Solutions, Herndon, VA