Re: some mail annoyances

[Jaap-Henk Hoepman <hoepman@cs.utwente.nl>]

On 06 Jul 1999 06:02:30 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Jaap-Henk Hoepman <hoepman@cs.utwente.nl> writes:
> 
> > What I would really love to see is a group/topic parameter called,
> > say, group-type with two possible values 'mail-group and
> > 'news-group.
> 
> This sounds workable...
> 
> > - all articles (read and unread) are visible (e.g. like (display . all))
> > - the first unread article is selected when opening
> 
> This is the default, isn't it?

I believ so, yes.

> > - the group is always visible (e.g. like (visible . t))
> > - replies are Gcc:-ed to the current group (gcc-self . t)
> > - will have auto-expire off (auto-expire . nil)
> 
> Well, er, why?  auto-expire only makes sense in mail groups...

Well, see below. The `gnus way' of deleting articles is to mark them expirable
and to expire them later, right. So when using gnus to read mail, the only
quirk one needs to learn is that delete = mark expirable. To make this look as
much as an immediate delete, expiry-wait should be set to immediate. 

For mail, the default for a read article is _not_ to delete it (at least for
most mail readers it isn't :-); hence auto-expire should be nil. Deleting
(ie. expiring) should require explicit action by the (novice) user.

> 
> > - will immediately expire all expirable articles (expiry-wait . immediate)
> 
> I don't like that much.

Well, see above.

> 
> > - all mark commands move to the next article, be it read or unread
> >         (the current default is to move to the next unread article)
> > - set display to threaded mode
> 
> But that's the default?

Ah yes, I should have said:
- set display to threaded mode with subtrees hidden.

Perhaps it should be set up such that any change of a group/topic parameter
after setting group-type overrides the (implicit) setting of that parameter 
by group-type. E.g. to set expiry-wait to some other value.

Jaap-Henk

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