From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23841 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jaap-Henk Hoepman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: some mail annoyances Date: 05 Jul 1999 09:45:52 +0200 Organization: University of Twente, Department of Computer Science Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161501 4205 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:51:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07448 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAB01840; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 05 Jul 1999 02:48:29 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01937 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:48:14 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07385 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from hypnos.cs.utwente.nl (hypnos.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.15.9]) by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27112 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:45:59 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: from utip151.cs.utwente.nl by hypnos.cs.utwente.nl (8.8.8+Sun/csrelay-Sol1.4/RB) id JAA05849; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:45:59 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from hoepman@localhost) by utip151.cs.utwente.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01543; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:45:52 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "04 Jul 1999 18:58:17 +0200" X-Face: #U;T;~,y.iVz7!wB(gVzSj:j}x-tZr\v-PQU}''7h^>jaAM'vw1KA83N5/gN~kcktG%,>Q>""S?Fg`&U80!Vg=)El,s/W)W^ Original-Lines: 50 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23841 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23841 On 04 Jul 1999 18:58:17 +0200 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Gnus does not behave like traditional mail readers. If you want to > > make it behave that way, you can, but it's an uphill battle. > > I think that a function which is like gnus-summary-mark-unread-as-read > except that it ticks articles rather than marking them as read is > useful for mail groups, and will go a long way to making Gnus behave > like traditional mail readers. (Err, you also need to put this > function in gnus-mark-article-hook, of course.) > > What else is needed? Turning on total-expire? Is that sufficient? > > I think there is no harm done in providing a few convenience functions > and maybe a bit of advice (read: sample Lisp code) for people who wish > to do this, so that they can try it for a couple of months before > realizing that they didn't want this in the first place :-) > > What do you think? What I would really love to see is a group/topic parameter called, say, group-type with two possible values 'mail-group and 'news-group. This parameter would modify the behaviour of this group to be `like a newsgroup' (the default) or `like a mail group'. The latter would ensure that - all articles (read and unread) are visible (e.g. like (display . all)) - the first unread article is selected when opening - the group is always visible (e.g. like (visible . t)) - replies are Gcc:-ed to the current group (gcc-self . t) - will have auto-expire off (auto-expire . nil) - will immediately expire all expirable articles (expiry-wait . immediate) - all mark commands move to the next article, be it read or unread (the current default is to move to the next unread article) and perhaps also - set display to threaded mode Just my opinion of course... Jaap-Henk -- Jaap-Henk Hoepman | Come sail your ships around me Dept. of Computer Science | And burn these bridges down University of Twente | Nick Cave - "Ship Song" Email: hoepman@cs.utwente.nl === WWW: www.cs.utwente.nl/~hoepman Phone: +31 53 4893795 === Secr: +31 53 4893770 === Fax: +31 53 4894590 PGP ID: 0xF52E26DD Fingerprint: 1AED DDEB C7F1 DBB3 0556 4732 4217 ABEF