From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67477 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problem with gnus-article-hide-citation Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:35:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87y71eeav9.fsf@pcdesk.net> <87r675r1m3.fsf@engster.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222684568 6198 80.91.229.12 (29 Sep 2008 10:36:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tyler Spivey To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15928@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Sep 29 12:37:06 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KkG7l-00078A-Ij for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:37:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KkG6H-0003Rc-0w; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KkG6F-0003RO-TA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KkG6B-0005t2-NH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from m61s02.vlinux.de ([83.151.21.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KkG6G-00054N-00 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:35:32 +0200 Original-Received: from kafka.physik3.gwdg.de ([134.76.92.48]) by m61s02.vlinux.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KkG6r-0005jM-AS; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:36:09 +0200 Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org, Tyler Spivey In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:45:44 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2.90 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67477 Archived-At: Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> The problem is that the hidden text practically shadows the first >> character of the visible one. You may try this with the following test >> code: > Emacs 22.1 behaves similarly, but in Emacs 21.4, the cursor doesn't > move and C-x = shows the first "b" at position 8. One more step to > the right, the cursor moves to the second "b". It seems to be a bug > that has been introduced in Emacs 22. This bug also seems to be already known: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/50202 After reading Stefan's response on this issue, I don't think it makes much sense to bring this up again in emacs-devel. I agree that one place were this could be fixed is EmacsSpeak, but we could also at least try to circumvent this problem by putting the hidden text after the button, i.e. at the end of the line. I already played around with that, but it's a bit tricky to get right... -David