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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: ding@gnus.org
Cc: Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
Subject: Re: Problem with gnus-article-hide-citation
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:25:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kziqsf9udj.fsf@kafka.physik3.gwdg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4m3ajjlukc.fsf@jpl.org> (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:28:03 +0900")

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
> I doubted the behavior of C-a (i.e. move-beginning-of-line) is
> really useful.  It moves the point to the next visible field,
> but shouldn't it be the end of the previous visible field (or
> the beginning of the buffer)?  Anyway, how about trying the
> following for a while?  It is just what Emacs 21 does:
>
> (global-set-key "\C-a" 'beginning-of-line)

The problem is that the hidden text practically shadows the first
character of the visible one. You may try this with the following test
code:

(save-excursion
  (set-buffer (get-buffer-create "invtest"))
  (erase-buffer)
  (insert "\naaaaa\nbbbbb\n")
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (forward-line 1)
  (set-text-properties (point) (1+ (point-at-eol)) '(invisible t intangible t)))

Now switch to the buffer "invtest", and put the cursor on the first
"b". Doing C-x = here will show the hidden "a" on position 2. If you go
one step to the right, C-x = will (correctly) show the second "b" at
position 9. In fact, it seems you cannot really access the first "b" at
position 8 through cursor movements. Therefore, EmacsSpeak would not
only have to ignore invisible text, but skip it until it reaches the
first visible character. This seems rather odd to me, and I also didn't
expect that behavior after reading the section on invisible text in the
ELisp reference.

-David



  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-29  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87y71eeav9.fsf@pcdesk.net>
2008-09-27 16:32 ` David Engster
2008-09-28 23:28   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-09-29  9:25     ` David Engster [this message]
2008-09-29  9:45       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-09-29 10:35         ` David Engster
2008-10-04 13:51           ` David Engster

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