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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: gnus shouldn't be making general-purpose variables buffer-local
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:38:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kzljuely5p.fsf@randomsample.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4moczbhtsn.fsf@jpl.org> (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:26:16 +0900")

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
>>>>>> David Engster wrote:
>> So maybe, we should change `gnus-summary-set-local-parameters' to only
>> set those variables buffer-local that begin with a proper prefix, like
>> "gnus-" and  "mm-" ?
>
> But it will disable the existing features concerning the parameters
> of which the names don't begin with "gnus-" and  "mm-". 

That shouldn't happen, since those parameters are usually retrieved
through `gnus-group-get-parameter', `gnus-group-fast-parameter', or
`gnus-group-find-parameter' (see e.g. how nnimap uses the uidvalidity
parameter). If an existing feature breaks because of that change, I
would argue that it is broken, since it shouldn't depend on group
parameters being buffer-local variables.

In short: Making a group parameter buffer-local should only be done for
overriding a global value.

That gives me an idea: in `gnus-summary-set-local-parameters', instead
of defining fixed prefixes like "gnus-" or "mm-", we could simply make
only those parameters buffer-local which are globally bound?

> The best way seems to be to add "gnus-" or "mm-" to all the
> parameters.  However, it will take time for coding and verifying.

The main problem I see is that this is an incompatible change,
i.e. parameters from existing groups would have to be updated.

> Maybe, it should do after the Emacs 23.1 release.

I agree in any case.

Regards,
David



  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-17 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-12  6:42 Ami Fischman
2008-12-16 17:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-16 22:54   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-17  8:46     ` David Engster
2008-12-17  9:20       ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-17 10:21         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-22 17:36           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-12-22 18:55           ` Reiner Steib
2008-12-22 20:53             ` Ami Fischman
2008-12-24  2:32             ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-17 11:10         ` David Engster
2008-12-17 12:26           ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-17 13:38             ` David Engster [this message]
2008-12-17 14:28               ` David Engster
2008-12-17 23:22                 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-18  0:19                   ` David Engster
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-11-02 17:47 Ami Fischman
2008-12-10  7:02 ` Xavier Maillard

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