From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67247 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus and imap Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:27:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: <877iabwtjx.fsf@randomsample.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219318105 29375 80.91.229.12 (21 Aug 2008 11:28:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:28:25 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15698@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Aug 21 13:29:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KW8Lr-0008EV-U5 for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:29:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8K5-0001BC-CX; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:27:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8K4-0001B4-Ca for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:27:24 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8K1-0008BY-A9 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:27:24 -0500 Original-Received: from m61s02.vlinux.de ([83.151.21.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KW8K2-0001jv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:27:22 +0200 Original-Received: from kafka.physik3.gwdg.de ([134.76.92.48]) by m61s02.vlinux.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KW8KF-0007oE-C8 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:27:35 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Vitaly Mayatskikh's message of "Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:26:12 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2.90 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67247 Archived-At: Vitaly Mayatskikh writes: >> However, saying that adding this feature to all back ends is "no >> problem" seems a bit optimistic to me. > > All, what it needs, is to fill gnus-info-unread (possibly, with the same > value as in active info). Overall changes in backends are quite small, > see: http://repo.or.cz/w/more-gnus.git?a=commitdiff;h=5345887a980cdd001a7c48e68143106cbd94efae Yes, the changes are small. I was just referring to the sheer number of back ends which makes this difficult. Besides, there are back ends which are really difficult to grasp, like nnmaildir (at least for me). > Ok, sounds reasonable. I'll try to fix Gnus for using gnus-info-unread > when possible. If backend wants to deliver articles in sequence set, it > should fill gnus-info-unread, otherwise Gnus will take bits from > gnus-active. Sounds good to me. However, before you do too much work on this, and since this is a change in the Gnus internals, maybe someone who is more familiar with the code base (Reiner?) can say if this is desirable to do. > As I found, a lot of old code in Gnus simply doesn't work (nnir + imap, > agent + imap). Really? I don't use these features, but was under the impression that nnir and the agent work with nnimap. Regards, David