From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66953 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [OT]sendmail ssl authentication Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:42:54 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bq37aba8.fsf@newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210923876 8671 80.91.229.12 (16 May 2008 07:44:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 07:44:36 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15430@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 16 09:45:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jwucb-0006XK-Q8 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:44:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jwub2-0001jt-QD; Fri, 16 May 2008 02:43:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jwub1-0001jh-Gq for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 16 May 2008 02:43:19 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jwuau-0004lA-OZ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 16 May 2008 02:43:19 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Jwub8-0008Jm-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 09:43:26 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jwuan-00032S-Ve for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 16 May 2008 07:43:06 +0000 Original-Received: from kafka.physik3.gwdg.de ([134.76.92.48]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 07:43:05 +0000 Original-Received: from de_bb by kafka.physik3.gwdg.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 May 2008 07:43:05 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: kafka.physik3.gwdg.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lFNh1u/O5FnauQEw0SjOf3sh7i0= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66953 Archived-At: reader@newsguy.com writes: > Sending a message with `mail -v' and watching the smtp conversation I > see my messages get to the comcast mail server, (posted separately) > but there is no mention of any authentication problem only a > `deferred' and then timeout. There is a great tool for testing SMTP connections called "swaks": http://www.jetmore.org/john/code/#swaks > In case anyone suggests it: I don't really want to side step and use > the smtp.el package inside of gnus because I like for other mail tools > like mailx to work too. OK. My next suggestion would then be to switch to Exim or Postfix. They're usually easier to configure and many distributions have scripts to create the configuration for you, based on some simple settings (Exim on Debian, for example). > Currently I have sendmail.mc setup to use authinfo, and as I've > mentioned it worked for mnths but now the server has changed over to > using ssl and uses a different port... I think 465. At least that > is what popped up when I checked the ssl box on thunderbird. The problem is: there are two different ways to send mail with SSL encryption: a correct one (SMTP+STARTTLS) and a broken one (ssmtp). The latter is a typical Outlook-kludge (which is why many ISPs do it) and is usually done over port 465, so it might indeed be that you're dealing with ssmtp. If so, even switching to smtp.el won't help you since it doesn't support ssmtp. See this thread for details and how to test with telnet/swaks what you're dealing with: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/52049 >Does anyone know what I need in sendmail setup to allow ssl >authentication at my ISP smtp server? I'd suggest you better ask that question in a group dealing with sendmail. -David