From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35131 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Shenton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Thoughts on Message-ID generation Date: 01 Mar 2001 09:24:37 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87n1b6rcq9.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170920 1323 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:28:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41070D049E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:25:31 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB02140; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:25:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:24:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01850 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:24:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9013AD049E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:24:46 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14023; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:24:37 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Florian Weimer In-Reply-To: Florian Weimer's message of "28 Feb 2001 17:31:10 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 25 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35131 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35131 On 28 Feb 2001 17:31:10 +0100, Florian Weimer said: Florian> Toby Speight writes: >> With all this talk on how to generate message-ID values and ensure >> their uniqueness, it's long been my opinion that the Right Way to >> do this is to have a well-known MessageId service. Connect to the >> assigned port on any server (perhaps even localhost), tell it how >> many ids you want, read them in, and go away until you've used them >> all. Florian> There's already such a service built into recent versions of Florian> INN: Florian> | 200 cert.uni-stuttgart.de InterNetNews NNRP server INN Florian> 2.3.0 ready (posting ok). | post | 340 Ok, recommended ID Florian> <97j88b$o6$1@hornet.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> I'd really like the messageId to NOT contain my host, domain, or other identifying information. The layout of my LAN systems should be private, and I don't want spammers harvesting this info. Any reason it can't be related to a crypto-generated blob based on maybe UNIX time + hash of machine name + PID + ... ? Yours in paranoia...