From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15663 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Bihlmeyer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus v5.6.24 is released Date: 16 Jul 1998 12:58:20 +0200 Organization: Subgenius Police Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199807112117.OAA10778@dzur.kerch.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154654 23345 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA23185 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 04:03:32 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10169 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 07:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAS01202; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:33:38 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:58:31 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24722 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 05:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mars.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (mars.zserv.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.75.15]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28038 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 06:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 29660 invoked by uid 524); 16 Jul 1998 10:58:20 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Robbe In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "15 Jul 1998 21:42:12 -0400" Original-Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.11/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15663 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15663 Hi, >>>>> On 15 Jul 1998 21:42:12 -0400 >>>>> Stainless Steel Rat said: Rat> Alan Shutko writes: >> Sure Alt generates something. It generates a keycode. Rat> It does not, in and of itself, generate anything that Emacs, Rat> thus Gnus, recognizes. That's only the default setup. Of course Alt generates a keycode, that gets from the keyboard to the cpu to the os to X. If you tell X to map this keycode to something other than a modifier, it produces this keysym with no problem. I just used xmodmap to make Alt generate an "r". >> Right, but we were talking about X. Rat> No, we were discussing a key binding that needs to work in X and Rat> in ttys, and whether or not that binding is "safe". And the Rat> point I think I (and others) have made is that it is not "safe". We're discussing whether to support stupid wms that steal bindings from programs. Remember that ICCCM requests wms to offer users a way to send ANY key-combo to applications. Robbe -- Robert Bihlmeyer reads: Deutsch, English, MIME, Latin-1, NO SPAM!