From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64594 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Holger Sparr Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nndiary documentation bug Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 16:29:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178578395 27721 80.91.229.12 (7 May 2007 22:53:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 22:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: To: Didier Verna Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13105@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 08 00:53:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HlC4r-000335-8o for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 08 May 2007 00:53:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HlC3u-0000sI-J1; Mon, 07 May 2007 17:52:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hl4EW-0006Ne-1D for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 07 May 2007 09:30:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hl4EU-0002Lw-F5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 07 May 2007 09:30:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rmr66-204.zih.tu-dresden.de ([141.30.66.204] helo=mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Hl4ET-0004PL-00 for ; Mon, 07 May 2007 16:30:33 +0200 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by mailgate-36 with esmtp (exim-4.51) id 1Hl4Dq-0007F5-HO; Mon, 07 May 2007 16:29:54 +0200 Original-Received: from mailgate.urz.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amavis-36 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16344-441; Mon, 7 May 2007 16:29:53 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from [141.30.108.1] (helo=mfk.mw.tu-dresden.de) by mailgate-36 with esmtp (exim-4.51) id 1Hl4Dp-0007Ex-Sc; Mon, 07 May 2007 16:29:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mfk.mw.tu-dresden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9661100C0; Mon, 7 May 2007 16:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mfk.mw.tu-dresden.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mfk.tu-dresden.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16689-04; Mon, 7 May 2007 16:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from sparr.mw.tu-dresden.de.mfk.tu-dresden.de (sparr.mfk [192.168.11.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mfk.mw.tu-dresden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F241100BB; Mon, 7 May 2007 16:29:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Didier Verna's message of "Mon\, 07 May 2007 15\:10\:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at mfk X-TUD-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on amavis-36 X-TUD-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.1 (20050509) at tu-dresden.de X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64594 Archived-At: Didier Verna wrote: > Reiner Steib wrote: > >> On Thu, May 03 2007, Holger Sparr wrote: >> >>> From (info "(gnus)Running NNDiary") : >>> >>> ,---- >>> | In order to use `nndiary' in autonomous mode, you have several >>> | things to do: >>> | >>> | * Allow `nndiary' to retrieve new mail by itself. Put the following >>> | line in your `gnusrc' file: >>> | >>> | (setq nndiary-get-new-mail t) >>> `---- >>> >>> This seems to be no longer true. >>> >>> By now, `nndiary-get-new-mail' is actually designed as a server >>> variable and should therefore be used like this: >>> >>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nndiary "" >>> (nndiary-get-new-mail t)))) >> >> I think Holger is right. Didier, what do you think? > > > I don't quite understand the "This seems to be no longer true." part, > as AFAICR, the design of nndiary-get-new-mail has never changed. I'm > actually reluctant to advertise this variable as a server one (although > technically, I guess it's possible to use it that way). > > As explained in the doc, nndiary is not a traditionnal mail backend (you > would not use it for retrieving your emails), so if you want to use it > in its "autonomous" mode, you probably also have to customize > nndiary-mail-sources and nndiary-split-methods as well. This is not like > setting up one *and only one* mail backend as the preferred method for > getting mails. I cannot really say when getting new mail for the nndiary backend stopped. I only guess that it happened after `gnus-server-regenerate-server' for my nnml backend. This is what I get now: ,----[ C-h v nndiary-get-new-mail RET ] | nndiary-get-new-mail is a variable defined in `nndiary.el'. | Its value is nil | | | Documentation: | Whether nndiary gets new mail and split it. | Contrary to traditional mail back ends, this variable can be set to t | even if your primary mail back end also retreives mail. In such a case, | NDiary uses its own mail-sources and split-methods. | | This is a Gnus server variable. See Info node `(gnus)Select Methods'. | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | [back] `---- and I assumed something has been changed. Since ,---- | (require 'gnus-diary) | (setq nndiary-get-new-mail t) `---- in my .gnus.el has no effect anymore (meaning the default of nil is not changed). In case it has something to do with my setup, where and how can I investigate? Holger