From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78280 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aric Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Moving Articles from Exchange Server Does not Delete Them Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301595172 29109 80.91.229.12 (31 Mar 2011 18:12:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:12:52 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26588@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 31 20:12:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5MMM-000180-2U for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5MMD-00026l-Di; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:12:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5MMB-00026O-Cp for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:12:31 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5MM9-00031Z-SX for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:12:31 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5MM9-000421-4a for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q5MM9-0000yS-3R for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from 149.142.103.17 ([149.142.103.17]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:29 +0200 Original-Received: from aorchid by 149.142.103.17 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 231 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 149.142.103.17 (Opera/9.80 (X11; FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE amd64; U; en) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78280 Archived-At: Aric mac.com> writes: > OK. So the server is not doing what GNUS tells it to do. The messages are still > not gone despite the \Delete and EXPUNGE command. Yes, something is up with the exchange server. In Claws-mail it will mark them as having been acted upon, but they are actually not deleted either, despite a call to delete them. To actually get them deleted it requires opening another mailbox and then Claws asks if I want the marked articles processed. Then they are gone. Here is the log from Claws of looking at the messages in the exchange inbox then moving them to the 'Jobs' mailbox on another server, then being asked to process the marks when I try to open 'Jobs': * IMAP connection is un-authenticated [11:03:03] IMAP4> 1 CAPABILITY [11:03:03] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 AUTH=NTLM AUTH=GSSAPI AUTH=PLAIN IDLE NAMESPACE LITERAL+ [11:03:03] IMAP4< 1 OK CAPABILITY completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4> Logging someone to mail.somewhere using LOGIN [11:03:03] IMAP4< LOGIN completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4< Login to mail.somewhere successful [11:03:03] IMAP4> 3 LIST "" "" [11:03:03] IMAP4< * LIST (\Noselect \HasChildren) "/" "" [11:03:03] IMAP4< 3 OK LIST completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4> 4 STATUS INBOX (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * STATUS INBOX (MESSAGES 11 UIDNEXT 76228 UIDVALIDITY 4106 UNSEEN 0) [11:03:03] IMAP4< 4 OK STATUS completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4> 5 SELECT INBOX [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 11 EXISTS [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 0 RECENT [11:03:03] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft $MDNSent) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft $MDNSent)] Permanent flags [11:03:03] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 4106] UIDVALIDITY value [11:03:03] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 76228] The next unique identifier value [11:03:03] IMAP4< 5 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [11:03:03] IMAP4> 6 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 76076) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 2 FETCH (UID 76087) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 3 FETCH (UID 76139) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 4 FETCH (UID 76161) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 5 FETCH (UID 76162) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 6 FETCH (UID 76169) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 7 FETCH (UID 76180) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 8 FETCH (UID 76181) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 9 FETCH (UID 76196) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 10 FETCH (UID 76210) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 11 FETCH (UID 76227) [11:03:03] IMAP4< 6 OK FETCH completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4> 7 UID FETCH 76210,76227 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 139 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 252 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< ) [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 140 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 289 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< ) [11:03:03] IMAP4< 7 OK FETCH completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [11:03:03] IMAP4> 8 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged) UID 76076) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 2 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Flagged) UID 76087) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 3 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Answered) UID 76139) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 4 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76161) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 5 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76162) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 6 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76169) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 7 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Answered) UID 76180) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 8 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76181) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 9 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76196) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 10 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76210) [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 11 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76227) [11:03:03] IMAP4< 8 OK FETCH completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4> 9 UID FETCH 76210 BODY.PEEK[] [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 10 FETCH (BODY[] {909} [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 909 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< UID 76210) [11:03:03] IMAP4< 9 OK FETCH completed. [11:03:03] IMAP4> 10 UID FETCH 76227 BODY.PEEK[] [11:03:03] IMAP4< * 11 FETCH (BODY[] {10096} [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1904 bytes] [11:03:03] IMAP4< UID 76227) [11:03:03] IMAP4< 10 OK FETCH completed. [11:03:24] IMAP4< * OK IMAP4 ready * IMAP connection is un-authenticated [11:03:24] IMAP4> 1 CAPABILITY [11:03:24] IMAP4< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE UIDPLUS ID NO_ATOMIC_RENAME UNSELECT CHILDREN MULTIAPPEND BINARY SORT THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES ANNOTATEMORE IDLE LISTEXT LIST- SUBSCRIBED AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN [11:03:24] IMAP4< 1 OK completed [11:03:24] IMAP4> Logging someone to mail.somewhere.else using LOGIN [11:03:25] IMAP4< User logged in [11:03:25] IMAP4< Login to mail.somewhere.else successful [11:03:25] IMAP4> 3 LIST "" "" [11:03:25] IMAP4< * LIST (\Noselect) "/" "" [11:03:25] IMAP4< 3 OK Completed (0.000 secs 0 calls) [11:03:25] IMAP4> 4 APPEND "Jobs" (\Seen) {1127} [11:03:25] IMAP4< + go ahead [11:03:25] IMAP4> [data - 1129 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4< 4 OK [APPENDUID 1219785512 1028] Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 5 APPEND "Jobs" (\Seen) {3826} [11:03:25] IMAP4< + go ahead [11:03:25] IMAP4> [data - 3828 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4< 5 OK [APPENDUID 1219785512 1029] Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 6 APPEND "Jobs" (\Seen) {898} [11:03:25] IMAP4< + go ahead [11:03:25] IMAP4> [data - 900 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4< 6 OK [APPENDUID 1219785512 1030] Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 7 APPEND "Jobs" (\Seen \Answered) {4123} [11:03:25] IMAP4< + go ahead [11:03:25] IMAP4> [data - 4125 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4< 7 OK [APPENDUID 1219785512 1031] Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 8 APPEND "Jobs" (\Seen \Answered) {3442} [11:03:25] IMAP4< + go ahead [11:03:25] IMAP4> [data - 3444 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4< 8 OK [APPENDUID 1219785512 1032] Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 9 STATUS "Jobs" (MESSAGES UIDNEXT UIDVALIDITY UNSEEN) [11:03:25] IMAP4< * STATUS Jobs (MESSAGES 21 UIDNEXT 1033 UIDVALIDITY 1219785512 UNSEEN 0) [11:03:25] IMAP4< 9 OK Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 10 SELECT "Jobs" [11:03:25] IMAP4< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen NonJunk $MDNSent $label1 $Forwarded gnus-expire gnus-forward KMAILFORWARDED KMAILTODO KMAILWATCHED KMAILIGNORED $TODO $WATCHED $IGNORED $NotJunk $Junk) [11:03:25] IMAP4< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen NonJunk $MDNSent $label1 $Forwarded gnus-expire gnus-forward KMAILFORWARDED KMAILTODO KMAILWATCHED KMAILIGNORED $TODO $WATCHED $IGNORED $NotJunk $Junk \*)] [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 21 EXISTS [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 5 RECENT [11:03:25] IMAP4< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1219785512] [11:03:25] IMAP4< * OK [UIDNEXT 1033] [11:03:25] IMAP4< * OK [NOMODSEQ] Sorry, modsequences have not been enabled on this mailbox [11:03:25] IMAP4< * OK [URLMECH INTERNAL] [11:03:25] IMAP4< 10 OK [READ-WRITE] Completed [11:03:25] IMAP4> 11 UID FETCH 1028 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 734 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 12 UID FETCH 1029 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 598 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 13 UID FETCH 1030 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 621 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 14 UID FETCH 1031 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 440 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 15 UID FETCH 1032 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 612 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 11 UID STORE 76139,76162,76180:76181,76196 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [11:03:25] IMAP4< 11 OK STORE completed. [11:03:25] IMAP4> 12 EXPUNGE [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 9 EXPUNGE [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 8 EXPUNGE [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 7 EXPUNGE [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 5 EXPUNGE [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 3 EXPUNGE [11:03:25] IMAP4< * 6 EXISTS [11:03:25] IMAP4< 12 OK EXPUNGE completed. [11:03:25] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 16 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 503 bytes] [11:03:25] IMAP4> 17 UID FETCH 1015:1027 (UID FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK [HEADER.FIELDS (Date From To Cc Subject Message-ID References In-Reply-To)]) [11:03:25] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 2896 bytes] [11:03:26] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1200 bytes] [11:03:26] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 2835 bytes] [11:03:26] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [11:03:26] IMAP4> 18 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [11:03:26] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 952 bytes] [11:03:43] IMAP4> 13 UID STORE 76169 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [11:03:43] IMAP4< 13 OK STORE completed. [11:03:43] IMAP4> 14 EXPUNGE [11:03:43] IMAP4< * 4 EXPUNGE [11:03:43] IMAP4< * 5 EXISTS [11:03:43] IMAP4< 14 OK EXPUNGE completed. [11:03:54] IMAP4> 19 NOOP [11:03:54] IMAP4< 19 OK Completed [11:03:54] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [11:03:54] IMAP4> 20 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [11:03:54] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 503 bytes] [11:03:54] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [11:03:54] IMAP4> 21 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [11:03:54] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 952 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4> 22 UID FETCH 1026 BODY.PEEK[] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 2896 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 1696 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 2896 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 4096 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 3466 bytes] [11:03:56] IMAP4< [data - 32 bytes] [11:04:17] IMAP4> 23 UID STORE 1032 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted) [11:04:17] IMAP4< 23 OK Completed [11:04:17] IMAP4> 24 EXPUNGE [11:04:17] IMAP4< * 21 EXPUNGE [11:04:17] IMAP4< * 20 EXISTS [11:04:17] IMAP4< * 4 RECENT [11:04:17] IMAP4< 24 OK Completed [11:04:23] IMAP4> 25 UID FETCH 1027 BODY.PEEK[] [11:04:23] IMAP4< [FETCH data - 3510 bytes] [11:04:31] IMAP4> 15 NOOP [11:04:31] IMAP4< 15 OK NOOP completed. [11:04:31] IMAP4- [fetching UIDs...] [11:04:31] IMAP4> 16 UID FETCH 1:* (UID) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (UID 76076) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 2 FETCH (UID 76087) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 3 FETCH (UID 76161) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 4 FETCH (UID 76210) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 5 FETCH (UID 76227) [11:04:31] IMAP4< 16 OK FETCH completed. [11:04:31] IMAP4- [fetching flags...] [11:04:31] IMAP4> 17 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS UID) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Answered \Flagged) UID 76076) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 2 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Flagged) UID 76087) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 3 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76161) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 4 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76210) [11:04:31] IMAP4< * 5 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen) UID 76227) [11:04:31] IMAP4< 17 OK FETCH completed.