* Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
@ 1999-01-27 5:26 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 5:58 ` Charset request (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released) Lloyd Zusman
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-27 5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bug fixes and some new stuff.
Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/dist/pgnus.tar.gz> or
"/ftp@quimby.gnus.org:/pub/gnus/". The patch is available as
<URL:ftp://quimby.gnus.org/pub/gnus/ding-patches/pgnus-0.73-0.74.diff.gz>.
ChangeLog since last release:
Wed Jan 27 05:24:53 1999 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@menja.ifi.uio.no>
* gnus.el: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released.
1999-01-27 05:56:29 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
* gnus-art.el (article-fill-long-lines): Renamed.
(article-fill-long-lines): New keystroke.
1999-01-26 06:35:07 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
* gnus-msg.el (gnus-setup-posting-charset): Check for group.
* gnus-group.el (gnus-group-catchup-current): Skip groups now
displayed.
(gnus-group-catchup-current): Be more robus.
* gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-select-article): Reselect for showing
headers.
1999-01-25 Dave Love <fx@gnu.org>
* message.el (message-mode-menu): Add message-mime-attach-file.
(message-mode): Doc fix.
1999-01-26 05:24:19 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
* nnmail.el (nnmail-check-duplication): Insert the mail source
string.
* mail-source.el (mail-source-fetch-pop): Bind mail-source-string.
(mail-source-fetch-directory): Ditto.
(mail-source-fetch-file): Ditto.
(mail-source-string): New variable.
* gnus-start.el (gnus-get-unread-articles): Nix out groups over
the level.
* rfc2047.el (rfc2047-encodable-p): Convert to MIME charsets
before handling.
* mm-util.el (mm-mime-charset): Use the parameters.
(mm-mime-charset): Removed region paremeters.
* nnmail.el (nnmail-get-new-mail): Don't message the entire
source.
1999-01-25 12:05:16 Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com>
* nnmail.el (nnmail-get-split-group): Quote right.
1999-01-25 05:55:41 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
* mail-source.el (mail-source-movemail): Would kill an arbitrary
buffer.
1999-01-24 03:02:31 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
* gnus-group.el (gnus-clear-inboxes-moved): Removed.
(gnus-group-mode): Don't hook.
* mail-source.el (mail-source-bind): Doc fix.
(mail-source-bind): Take only one param.
* gnus-art.el (gnus-treat-highlight-signature): typep.
* mail-source.el (mail-source-movemail): Ignore empty file.
(mail-source-callback): Check before deleting.
* message.el (message-mime-attach-file): Include name.
1999-01-23 17:01:12 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
* mm-util.el (mm-read-charset): Return a symbol.
* mm-view.el (mm-inline-text): Insert signature separator.
* gnus-art.el (gnus-treat-predicate): New function.
(gnus-treat-article): Allow all types to be checked.
* gnus-util.el (gnus-or): New function.
(gnus-and): Ditto.
* gnus-art.el (gnus-mime-display-single): Use override.
* mm-decode.el (mm-attachment-override-types): New variable.
(mm-attachment-override-p): New function.
* gnus-picon.el (gnus-group-display-picons): Don't go backward.
1999-01-23 16:45:06 Andrew J. Cosgriff <ajc@bing.wattle.id.au>
* mm-view.el (mm-inline-text): Do vcards.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Charset request (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released)
1999-01-27 5:26 Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-01-27 5:58 ` Lloyd Zusman
1999-01-27 11:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 7:29 ` Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released Kai Haberzettl
1999-01-27 9:34 ` Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lloyd Zusman @ 1999-01-27 5:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> Bug fixes and some new stuff.
>
> [ ... ]
>
> 1999-01-23 17:01:12 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
>
> * mm-util.el (mm-read-charset): Return a symbol.
>
> [ ... ]
I have a request concerning either `mm-read-charset' in `mm-util.el'
or `mm-encode-body' in `mm-bodies.el' ...
Is there any way that one or both of these routines could be modified
so that we don't have to manually enter a Charset every time we send
out a message with "special" characters in it? I think it would be
convenient if there was some sort of variable which could contain a
default Charset which, if set, would be used in lieu of the user being
prompted each time.
I know that we can just write our own `mm-read-charset' functions that
return the Charset symbol of our choice if we want to override the
current behavior (and, in fact, I have done just that), but that's not
a very elegant solution, in my humble opinion.
Or is there already a way to set a default Charset that I have somehow
missed?
Thanks in advance.
--
Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
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* Re: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
1999-01-27 5:26 Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 5:58 ` Charset request (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released) Lloyd Zusman
@ 1999-01-27 7:29 ` Kai Haberzettl
1999-01-27 11:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 9:34 ` Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kai Haberzettl @ 1999-01-27 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Pressing 'c' to catchup while in the group-buffer gives me the
following error. Catching up from the summary-buffer works.
Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
intern-soft(nil [nnml+khaberz:HP 0 0 clari\.world\.asia\.koreas 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnml+khaberz:Kernel 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 de\.comp\.os\.unix\.programming 0 soc\.culture\.hawaii 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 comp\.emacs\.xemacs nnml+khaberz:The_Rest 0 0 0 de\.comp\.text\.tex 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...])
gnus-group-catchup-current(nil)
call-interactively(gnus-group-catchup-current)
Kai
--
"We had it tough ... I had to get up at 9 o'clock at night, half
an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of dry poison, work 29
hours down mill, and when we came home our Dad would kill us,
and dance about on our grave singing Haleleuia ..." -- Monty Python
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* Re: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
1999-01-27 5:26 Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 5:58 ` Charset request (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released) Lloyd Zusman
1999-01-27 7:29 ` Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released Kai Haberzettl
@ 1999-01-27 9:34 ` Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren
1999-01-27 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren @ 1999-01-27 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
[ Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
| Bug fixes and some new stuff.
I've got mymail spool files (of histortical reason) in
~/.vm-spool-files
and have set
nnmail-spool-file to
`(directory :path
,(expand-file-name "~/.vm-spool-files/") :suffix "spool")
and
nnmail-split-methods to
'((inbox))
my main mail file (inbox.spool) still gets delivered to
nnml+private:inbox. otehrwise, this setup produces (capitel.spool is
one of my procmail spool files)
Signaling: (wrong-type-argument listp directory)
nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" "capitel")
nnml-request-scan("capitel" "private")
gnus-request-scan("nnml+private:capitel" (nnml "private"))
gnus-activate-group("nnml+private:capitel" scan)
gnus-get-unread-articles(nil)
gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
byte-code("\b\x0e
gnus-1(nil nil nil)
gnus(nil)
call-interactively(gnus)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
--
Rolf Lindgren http://www.uio.no/~roffe/
roffe@tag.uio.no
.
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* Re: Charset request (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released)
1999-01-27 5:58 ` Charset request (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released) Lloyd Zusman
@ 1999-01-27 11:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 13:58 ` Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request) Lloyd Zusman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-27 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
> Or is there already a way to set a default Charset that I have somehow
> missed?
`message-default-charset'.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
1999-01-27 7:29 ` Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released Kai Haberzettl
@ 1999-01-27 11:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-27 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Haberzettl <khaberz@synnet.de> writes:
> Pressing 'c' to catchup while in the group-buffer gives me the
> following error. Catching up from the summary-buffer works.
>
> Signaling: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
Yup. Fix in Pterodactyl Gnus v0.75.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
1999-01-27 9:34 ` Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren
@ 1999-01-27 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 16:01 ` Hrvoje Niksic
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-27 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren <roffe@morgoth.uio.no> writes:
> nnmail-spool-file to
> `(directory :path
> ,(expand-file-name "~/.vm-spool-files/") :suffix "spool")
That should be
`((directory :path
,(expand-file-name "~/.vm-spool-files/") :suffix "spool"))
since this is a list of mail sources.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request)
1999-01-27 11:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-01-27 13:58 ` Lloyd Zusman
1999-01-27 14:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lloyd Zusman @ 1999-01-27 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
>
> > Or is there already a way to set a default Charset that I have somehow
> > missed?
>
> `message-default-charset'.
Aha! Well, this indeed works, and it suggests a feature that I would
find convenient:
It would be nice if the value of `message-default-charset' were to be
provided as the default value in the `completing-read' prompt within
`mm-read-charset' in `mm-utils.el'. The following patch provides this
functionality.
Any thoughts or opinions?
*** mm-util.el.orig Wed Jan 27 08:41:49 1999
--- mm-util.el Wed Jan 27 08:47:41 1999
***************
*** 271,277 ****
prompt
(mapcar (lambda (e) (list (symbol-name (car e))))
mm-mime-mule-charset-alist)
! nil t)))
(provide 'mm-util)
--- 271,278 ----
prompt
(mapcar (lambda (e) (list (symbol-name (car e))))
mm-mime-mule-charset-alist)
! nil t (when message-default-charset
! (prin1-to-string message-default-charset)))))
(provide 'mm-util)
--
Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
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* Re: Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request)
1999-01-27 13:58 ` Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request) Lloyd Zusman
@ 1999-01-27 14:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 14:45 ` Lloyd Zusman
1999-01-27 17:44 ` Lloyd Zusman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-27 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
> It would be nice if the value of `message-default-charset' were to be
> provided as the default value in the `completing-read' prompt within
> `mm-read-charset' in `mm-utils.el'. The following patch provides this
> functionality.
If you have `message-default-charset' set, you will never be prompted
for a charset, so I don't think this would be all that useful.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request)
1999-01-27 14:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-01-27 14:45 ` Lloyd Zusman
1999-01-28 7:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 17:44 ` Lloyd Zusman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lloyd Zusman @ 1999-01-27 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
>
> > It would be nice if the value of `message-default-charset' were to be
> > provided as the default value in the `completing-read' prompt within
> > `mm-read-charset' in `mm-utils.el'. The following patch provides this
> > functionality.
>
> If you have `message-default-charset' set, you will never be prompted
> for a charset, so I don't think this would be all that useful.
This is not true for me. I have `message-default-charset' set, and I
indeed *do* get prompted in version 0.74. What happens for me is that
if I enter nothing at the prompt (i.e., hit carriage return) the
`message-default-charset' seems to get used. It would be convenient
if I could see what this charset will be before hitting carriage
return.
Alternatively, it would be even more convenient if I don't get
prompted at all when `message-default-charset' is set, as you
described. Perhaps this is the change that would need to be made
instead of the patch I proposed.
--
Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
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* Re: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
1999-01-27 13:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-01-27 16:01 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-01-28 7:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1999-01-27 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Rolf Marvin B|e Lindgren <roffe@morgoth.uio.no> writes:
>
> > nnmail-spool-file to
> > `(directory :path
> > ,(expand-file-name "~/.vm-spool-files/") :suffix "spool")
>
> That should be
>
> `((directory :path
> ,(expand-file-name "~/.vm-spool-files/") :suffix "spool"))
>
> since this is a list of mail sources.
It's a bit surprising that a variable with a name in singular, such as
`nnmail-spool-file', names multiple mail sources. Perhaps you should
name the variable `nnmail-spool-sources', and leave the old variable
for backward compatibility?
You could then arrange that the new variable groks the new syntax, and
the old variable groks the old syntax.
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* Re: Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request)
1999-01-27 14:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-01-27 14:45 ` Lloyd Zusman
@ 1999-01-27 17:44 ` Lloyd Zusman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lloyd Zusman @ 1999-01-27 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
[ NOTE: This is a repost due to possible email problems with my earlier
attempt. ]
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
>
> > It would be nice if the value of `message-default-charset' were to be
> > provided as the default value in the `completing-read' prompt within
> > `mm-read-charset' in `mm-utils.el'. The following patch provides this
> > functionality.
>
> If you have `message-default-charset' set, you will never be prompted
> for a charset, so I don't think this would be all that useful.
This is not true for me. I have `message-default-charset' set, and I
indeed *do* get prompted in version 0.74. What happens for me is that
if I enter nothing at the prompt (i.e., hit carriage return) the
`message-default-charset' seems to get used. It would be convenient
if I could see what this charset will be before hitting carriage
return.
Alternatively, it would be even more convenient if I don't get
prompted at all when `message-default-charset' is set, as you
described. Perhaps this is the change that would need to be made
instead of the patch I proposed.
--
Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
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* Re: Suggested charset feature (Was: Charset request)
1999-01-27 14:45 ` Lloyd Zusman
@ 1999-01-28 7:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-28 7:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
> This is not true for me. I have `message-default-charset' set, and I
> indeed *do* get prompted in version 0.74.
Yup. Fix in Pterodactyl Gnus v0.75.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.74 is released
1999-01-27 16:01 ` Hrvoje Niksic
@ 1999-01-28 7:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-01-28 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
> It's a bit surprising that a variable with a name in singular, such as
> `nnmail-spool-file', names multiple mail sources. Perhaps you should
> name the variable `nnmail-spool-sources', and leave the old variable
> for backward compatibility?
Well, that's just there as a stop-gap measure. I was going to make
the sources despatch to the backends, and all of that, so the variable
in question would, er, not be there.
But I think I've kinda run out of enthusiasm for that part of the mail
fetching makeover.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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