From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27801 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Zusman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problem with the latest CVS build Date: 06 Dec 1999 10:48:27 -0500 Organization: Linux Hippopotamus Preserve Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87yabbt98d.fsf@inanna.danann.net> <87r9h3t7yv.fsf@inanna.danann.net> <2nvh6fxem6.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164760 26391 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:46:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28967 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:49:45 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB15970; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:48:57 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:49:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06603 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:48:57 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from ljz.net (gnus@ljz.net [205.230.65.138]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28952 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:48:31 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from gnus@localhost) by ljz.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24661; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:48:28 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "!ga1s|?LNLE3MeeeEYs(%LIl9q[xV9!j4#xf4!**BFW_ihlOb;:Slb>)vy>CJM writes: > Lloyd Zusman writes: > > > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > > > > > Lloyd Zusman writes: > > > > > > > [ ... ] > > > > > > Why don't you install the normal Gnus package and then add the CVS > > > Gnus? Just put the CVS Gnus directory first in load-path, and Bob > > > will be your uncle. > > > > I have done exactly that, but the standard building procedure that > > gets downloaded with CVS doesn't know about my normal load path, and > > it can't find mailheader in the load path that *it* tries to use. > > > strange, can you post the output of something like: > xemacs -batch -q -no-site-file -eval '(print load-path)' | tr ' ' '\n' | grep gnus > > > I get: > "/home/tigger3/ge204/.xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pgnus-cvs/" > "/tools/emacs/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnus/" I get this: Yes, no output. That's because there's nothing Gnus-like in my load-path. And now I think I understand what Kai Großjohann meant when he said (above) to "... install the normal Gnus package ...". He did *not* mean to simply install Gnus-5.8.x in my local area that gets pointed to the `load-path' that I set in my `.emacs', which is what I have been doing for over a year. What he *did* mean was to do an official XEmacs package installation of the Gnus package. I'm pretty sure that once I do this, I'll have what I need in my load-path when I do the CVS build ... correct? So ... in order for the CVS build to work, the standard XEmacs Gnus package that it replaces has to be installed, and at least one file that was explicitly removed from the CVS build (namely `mailheader.el') needs to be referenced from the standard Gnus build that the CVS build is supposed to supersede. But something seems wrong about this: what happens once the CVS build finally becomes the official Gnus build? Then, there won't be any `mailheader.el' anywhere, which means that Gnus as written today wouldn't work under XEmacs ... right? So therefore, either `mailheader.el' needs to become part of the CVS build once again, or else it has to become part of some other installable XEmacs package, or else Gnus needs to be rewritten so as not to need `mailheader.el' at all. But anyway, thanks very much. Your question about `load-path' helped me to see what I have to do to get my CVS working for the short term. > [ ... ] -- Lloyd Zusman ljz@asfast.com