From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78407 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mail-sources versus select-methods Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:45:30 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <87lizv5ro9.fsf@bifteki.lan> <84r59mncl0.fsf@davestoy.home> <84oc4n5ysz.fsf@davestoy.home> <9239lxm0lr.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <84y63o4bg3.fsf@davestoy.home> <844o6bnioj.fsf@davestoy.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302171892 14087 80.91.229.12 (7 Apr 2011 10:24:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 10:24:52 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26710@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Apr 07 12:24:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7mON-0006g4-Vx for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:24:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7mO0-00078a-KB; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7mNz-00078Q-DB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:24:23 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7mNx-00080s-C1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:24:22 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7kqU-0000cO-EE for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:45:42 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7dQD-0000Mk-3R for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:50:05 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:50:05 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:50:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 52 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XpWPRY1R9aXseC56SqSyDGlxgcE= X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1808--4978h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1731--4766h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1664--4582h-0s--0d--H*u:linux, 0.000-1664--4582h-0s--0d--H*UA:linux, 0.000-1607--4424h-0s--0d--H*u:gnu Spam tokens: 0.847-43--3767h-41741s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.847-43--3767h-41741s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org Autolearn status: no 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is freemail (rileyrg[at]googlemail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.2 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.9 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78407 Archived-At: david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) writes: >> david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) writes: >>>>> Apples and oranges. The two are complementary - there's no >>>>> competition here. >>> >>>> But there is. You can achieve the same thing using both. My Q is what s >>>> best and why. > >>> >>> Really? How can you use a mail source without a select method? > >> I never suggested you can. I said you can read mail and news without >> setting mail-sources. Local and remote afaik. > > OK, so we're in violent agreement :-) > Great ;) >> My point is that you dont need to set mail-sources. It seems that it can > > Right, that's exactly what I said. But now I understand what you're referring > to. Yes, it is possible to specify the mail-source equivalent directly in the > select method. I expect that's something that got added on over time. I have OK, I thought when you said this ,---- | david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) writes: | | >> Leonidas Tsampros writes: | >>> Richard Riley writes: | >>>> Undoubtedly an incredibly naive question but why would one use | >>>> mail-sources over select-methods? | >>>> | > | > ** One doesn't. They are two complementary things. ** | > | (ME) Hi, | | But one can. And I'm not clear what is best. | `---- you were in violent disagreement. > mail-sources set at home for my POP server, but I've been set up that way since > September Gnus (and maybe even earlier though I am pretty sure I was still using > mh-e back in those days). So I guess my original Q stands.