From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87954 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Newsgroup colours?!? 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X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87954 Archived-At: > * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2018-04-11 23:57:41 +0200]: > > I'll just include the entire thing. :-) Thanks. > I think the colours should be reverted back to what they were before > the change. Normal text should be white on black (if you have a dark > background), and colours should be used to emphasise or de-emphasise > certain text. Following that principle, normal Gnus groups should be > white, not ... er... what are they now? Teal? I wanted the different levels to be visually different. Level 6 is the baseline (you don't care about them) and the rest are more and more important - and that is _emphasized_ by the faces. I honestly did not think the change could possibly be controversial. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to defend my change. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1561 http://steingoldpsychology.com http://www.childpsy.net http://memri.org http://honestreporting.com http://thereligionofpeace.com Do the arithmetic or be doomed to talk nonsense. --John McCarthy