From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86412 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mail vs news Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:01:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450242156 23347 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2015 05:02:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 05:02:36 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M34644@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 16 06:02:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a94EI-0004F7-RJ for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:02:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a94DQ-0005P6-Md; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:01:28 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a94DN-0005Ol-Dz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:01:25 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a94DL-0000KZ-N5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:01:25 -0600 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a94DJ-0004gN-FG for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:01:21 +0100 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEB720199 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 00:01:19 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 16 Dec 2015 00:01:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=maillard.im; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=7GQYmfuseNHd9RnKv2leYm4uciA=; b=XI69UL 4KUm7DuIUG50SskYY91mlafa0VVpSYDTha5Yrct2toWzFrpkO19/Nc4yzOvZLhBP CNwL4FFvzkZZZ8Vi+nJF1IYL9pcvvqiU5Ekn2hh0dzMtfQhgUdxGDqc9wzfeksF+ 7W6OwXhQyoO0TI3gUwEWR4Kmr42nH3yNLWG7o= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=7GQYmfuseNHd9Rn Kv2leYm4uciA=; b=QtG9T46+DjJt45HwdXhgOwk7w5H0igAo4lEBTyxOZrPMu2Z Dt5+Ec0Vy10D6kpttRPItCPcgcvF+4HLisHtWtAuUL9OxDX3laJweVYmxVY+npEv i0/pcXsnJ28n7u9RHIeHjiHLye/+xwnFQQf6rDVDl9Ek/IomUZVxkTC1ZDGQ= X-Sasl-enc: iq+UEzI0hjHbf6TH8NCqFgXBc2oCrh67X8J8CSPfChEK 1450242079 Original-Received: from kcals.intra.maillard.im (areims-651-1-201-220.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.47.44.220]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 57380C016C4 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2015 00:01:19 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Gnus (0.14), GNU Emacs 25.1.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.0.0) X-Home-Page: https://xavier.maillard.im X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 9983 DCA1 1FAC 8DA7 653A F9AA BA49 09B7 8F04 DE1B X-GPG: 0xBA4909B78F04DE1B X-Accept-Language: en, fr Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Greg Troxel's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:13:00 -0500") X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86412 Archived-At: =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Greg Troxel writes: > Xavier Maillard writes: > >> I know emails and news are two different beasts outside Gnus Towers but = I am >> looking for informations explaining how these two /beasts/ are viewed in= side >> Gnus -i.e what are the mail-centric-features vs nntp-features. >> >> For example, does (adaptative) scoring work for both world ? Does expira= tion >> work asame ? etc. > > Basically email is a special case of news, and most things work > similarly. I don't use adaptive scoring, but I use the usual scoring > stuff all the time in nnimap groups. I use topic mode in the groups > buffer. I also use expiration, but auto-expire and total-expire, in > nnimap groups. In this case the messages (articles, gnus calls them) > are actually removed from IMAP server. The only funny part is that > expiration happens when exiting a group, so it's somewhat async and in > arrears, but in terms of keeping messages around for a while and then > pruning, it works for me. Thanks for your feedback. I am considering to go =C2=AB full NNTP =C2=BB fo= r all my mailing-lists needs (as long as it is possible). For example, I know gnu.* hierarchy offers many groups I regularly read without having to write a line of sieve script or without subscription. Will see. Are you aware of any trouble switching from normal mailing-list subscription to NNTP for ding for example ? (lag, gap, post missing, etc.) =2D -- Xavier. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJWcPAYAAoJEDy08nibbhJtssUIAICleNX+PXupegneldbnmChP 55l2Wz638aqSX62HPzxtSjgJe6PpqutjXZDDUjx41MWC498h/QZshU/oDzrBGDOg U8sdVW1EUItih8J92gtV6ZqDR9KI1OMYgwiHaDQLxibCx15JCIQ64U6M/dTXWDWl UVebi3OvlJgnEothg67FXlb2TjXN6VFnHCfIdr153GJIRQ134DUUuzDgK0/vpx14 Zxn/d1EXRVOUrai3KENXeqv4vn2DbT6SEPKL6ynfHj4PYvbyQDikUvwg9lnhK6TE wThg6GmNk5JMqN/RYjiVIHhU4SOFF7NL3mFKVlRphqZENrZHyu3dqwnkoAB6HjI=3D =3Dc35y =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE-----