From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/12899 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jon Babcock Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Alphabetetetetization Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:05:12 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152356 6268 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:19:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:19:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08110 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:19:47 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25474 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:19:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with SMTP id SAA26413 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:08:58 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (qmail 23747 invoked by uid 504); 23 Nov 1997 17:08:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23744 invoked from network); 23 Nov 1997 17:08:54 -0000 Original-Received: from lotus.kanji.com (root@206.230.42.4) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 1997 17:08:54 -0000 Original-Received: by lotus.kanji.com id m0xZfT6-002AnHC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:05:12 -0700 (MST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on 23 Nov 1997 16:21:22 +0100) Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12899 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:12899 If I understand the question correctly, here's three: Kenichi Handa -> Handa [surname] Ken'ichi [given name] Seokchan Lee -> Lee [surname] Seokchan [given name] Enami Tsugutomo -> Tsugutomo [surname] Enami [given name] My guess is that the order you have them in now (given name followed by surname) is the order that these gentlemen use for international purposes. And, because I know ding members want to know but are too shy to ask, a one sentence guide to Japanese pronunciation: Pronounce every syllable in a word with equal stress in a light staccato manner, the long vowels as two vowels, and double consonants with a pause in between. Jon Babcock