From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41672 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mailing lists and news archiving Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 01:52:57 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177033 7438 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:10:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 2291 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 09:54:09 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 09:54:09 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16NA01-00037p-00; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:53:53 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:53:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA19251 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 03:53:35 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 1897 invoked by alias); 6 Jan 2002 09:53:35 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1883 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2002 09:53:35 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 Jan 2002 09:53:35 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA43055 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 01:53:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g069qwR16853; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 01:52:58 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:05:33 +0100") Original-Lines: 58 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41672 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41672 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> So are you still considering it, or are there already many of them >> available? > > I've already done it, sorta. But I'm wondering 1) whether to feed my > mail repository into the news spool (for instance, I've got something > like 5000 xemacs-beta mails I could feed into the server), and 2) > whether to rename the groups. > >> You asked about hierarchy:.. The way freebsd does it is like: >> >> mailing.freebsd.questions >> mailing.freebsd.stable >> etc >> >> So maybe there is a sort of defacto `mailing' hierarchy. > > I haven't seen that name elsewhere. I've seen "fa.", though. > > How about "gmane", which is short for "Gnu MAil-to-NEws"? And is > pronounced "main", of course. Good as any.. another choice might be g-m2n Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Steinar Bang writes: > >> Would it be possible to provide some sort of emacs-friendly search >> interface to your newsspool? > > Of course. > > I'm just wondering whether it's possible to do this whether NNTP or > whether some extra-protocol channel has to be used. innd probably > doesn't come with glimpse or wais pre-installed, but would it be > possible to have a new NNTP command that would hand off a query to an > external agent and output the result from that? > > Like: > > XSEARCH group:gnus.ding search.*term > > innd would then do system("/usr/bin/search-program") with the search > terms from stdin, and just output what the search-program outputs. It > could, for instance, return a list of headers with in valid NNTP > format. > > I could write a proof-of-concept version of "search-program"... Karl K, is something of a `swish++' advocate, in my own experience it is something of a dog to build and get running... never did get it running. But Karl claims it is fast.