From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40665 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: maildir - whats the skinny? Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 01:50:06 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <878zcltaod.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87g06syk5n.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176182 2185 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:56:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 22538 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2001 09:53:40 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2001 09:53:40 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16Apkk-0006bL-00; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 03:51:10 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 03 Dec 2001 03:50:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA22503 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 03:50:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 20442 invoked by alias); 3 Dec 2001 09:50:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20431 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2001 09:50:46 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2001 09:50:46 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA67303 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:50:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB39oHC16686; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:50:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87g06syk5n.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> ("Matt Armstrong"'s message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2001 21:58:28 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 36 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40665 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40665 "Matt Armstrong" writes: [...] >> Each beginning with what `formail' thinks are more message headers. > > Slightly off topic, but formail has an -m argument. By default > formail will think it sees a new message when it sees 2 headers in a > row. Use -m 5 and it'll require 5 headers, which might fix the > problem. Haa... yeah that is exaclty what I am seeing. Messages created on the strength of 2 header like lines. Seems like formail would pay more attention to the dot on a line by itself and only print when that has shown up. Probably introduces other problems or sloth. [...] > I run "leafnode" (http://www.leafnode.org) to have a local nntp cache > of the groups I read. Accessing the messages is still slower than an > nntp group, but fast enough for me. Leafnode allows you to post to > it, and then it goes and posts to the main server when you tell it to. > So even if you don't read news via leafnode, you can post to leafnode > as a kind of nntp send queue. (there may be a better way though) I ran that for a little while once but it doesn't really change any thing inside gnus. The news is still in the restricted category of nntp. And leafnode trys to be a little too smart for its own good with the heuristics. I thought that the agent categories and activate levels etc gave more functionality. So went back to regular nntp server. I tried slrnpull for a while too. I think it is better than leafnode in that it doesn't outsmart the user so much. But again there is no gain inside gnus. But converting news to mail on the other hand, opens up quite a lot more fucntionality.