From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/37782 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Oort, agent - fetching read articles Date: 14 Aug 2001 21:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035173136 15614 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:05:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 6115 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2001 04:15:40 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (209.144.112.246) by gnus.org with SMTP; 15 Aug 2001 04:15:40 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6269 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2001 04:15:38 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO reader.local.lan) (209.144.117.151) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 15 Aug 2001 04:15:38 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f7F4FYP16449; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:15:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:19:23 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) Emacs/21.0.104 Original-Lines: 33 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37782 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37782 Simon Josefsson writes: > Paul Stodghill writes: > > > I've noticed that the agent in Oort gnus does not fetch all of the > > articles that I expect it to, and it seems to be that the articles that > > it doesn't fetch have been read before I try to fetch them. > > > > The newsgroups in question are in a category whose predicate is "true". > > I am not explicitly marking articles for downloading. I'm just doing a > > "J s" in the *Group* buffer. > > > > Is the agent supposed to fetch articles that have already been read? Is > > not, there some way to get it to do so? > > No, the behaviour is hard coded. I think I posted a patch here a > while ago that introduced a new agent predicate `read'. I'm not sure > if it still applies (or works) correctly, maybe you could try. Not being code literate, I haven't really tried to devine out what the code really does, but it seems that marking such messages unread should then have the desired affect, but that doesn't always work either. At the very least one would expect that using the explict % mark should have the desired affect but that doesn't always work either. It would be nice if at least the % mark forced the agent to download a message, regardless of read/unread or anything else, even overwriting it if already on disk if need be. Can that be managed? Far as I can see, the only really sure fire way to get a message downloaded if there is a question, is to go `plugged' and mark it for cache, and then of course it isn't under the agents care.